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Re: Basic Training

Wed, 09 May 2007 07:24

Traveller

Warrant Officer

Messages: 118
Registered: March 2007
Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida, U...

Sure Kheldhren , jump in. Have your race files sent to Micha by 5-14-07.

It's looking like a small packed universe so far.

Conrad

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Re: Basic Training

Thu, 10 May 2007 12:25

Kheldhren

Civilian

Messages: 2
Registered: May 2007

Will do

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Re: Basic Training - update

Thu, 10 May 2007 15:55

Micha

Commander

Duel Club Champion 2005

Duel Club Champion 2004

Messages: 2342
Registered: November 2002
Location: Belgium GMT +1

5 race files recieved,

mch

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Re: Basic Training

Fri, 11 May 2007 23:31

oldmetalhead

Petty Officer 3rd Class

Messages: 49
Registered: May 2007
Location: Troy, Ohio

I think I'd like to join..... Have played single-player, no multi. I'm not expecting to do very good, but I'd like to try. Very Happy

oldmetalhead

Old metalheads don't die, they just Sail Away.

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Re: Basic Training

Sat, 12 May 2007 13:27

Traveller

Warrant Officer

Messages: 118
Registered: March 2007
Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida, U...

Sure thing oldmetalhead, get your files to Micha fast.

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Re: Basic Training

Sat, 12 May 2007 13:50

oldmetalhead

Petty Officer 3rd Class

Messages: 49
Registered: May 2007
Location: Troy, Ohio

Already done Very Happy

oldmetalhead

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Re: Basic Training - update

Sat, 12 May 2007 16:59

Micha

Commander

Duel Club Champion 2005

Duel Club Champion 2004

Messages: 2342
Registered: November 2002
Location: Belgium GMT +1

7 race files,

mch

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Re: Basic Training

Sun, 13 May 2007 03:33

Captain Maim

Lt. Junior Grade

Messages: 492
Registered: March 2003
Location: USA, Mesa, Arizona

SMALL PACKED! Shocked

<weak laugh> I'll have to make sure my race is good for that. Uh Oh

Is it possible that we could have a bit more space? Same density medium size?

[Updated on: Sun, 13 May 2007 04:23]

Rule 1: "Pillage, THEN burn!"

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Re: Basic Training

Sun, 13 May 2007 10:22

Traveller

Warrant Officer

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Registered: March 2007
Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida, U...

Small packed is plenty of space for up to 9 players, we only have 7 Razz

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Re: Basic Training

Sun, 13 May 2007 11:03

Traveller

Warrant Officer

Messages: 118
Registered: March 2007
Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida, U...

I will need your race name as well as your race file before I can send the files to autohost.

Conrad

happybeachboy@yahoo.com

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Re: Basic Training

Sun, 13 May 2007 11:15

Traveller

Warrant Officer

Messages: 118
Registered: March 2007
Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida, U...

After talking with Micha I want to clarify a couple of issues.

1st: If a player drops out I don't intend to replace them, but I will announce they have become inactive.

2nd: If there is a dispute, I will ask a neutral 3rd party to look into it to keep things fair.

Conrad

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Re: Basic Training

Sun, 13 May 2007 15:34

sgtwilko

Crewman 3rd Class

Messages: 4
Registered: April 2007

Sorry for the delay in replying, I having now recovered from a system crash (Stars! returned some bizarre error about ntdll.dll being broken!).

If this is still open I will send my race file over shortly.

SgtWilko

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Re: Basic Training

Sun, 13 May 2007 16:15

sgtwilko

Crewman 3rd Class

Messages: 4
Registered: April 2007

Right, race file sent.

Any idea on what time of day the turns will be generated?

If I can I'd like to submit my turns during my lunch hour, but that'll only work (I suspect) for some days due to the time difference, so it would be useful to know if I have to submit on Tue-Sat or Mon-Fri.

Ta!

SgtWilko

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Re: Basic Training

Sun, 13 May 2007 21:32

Thor

Crewman 1st Class

Messages: 29
Registered: May 2007
Location: California

My race file has been sent as well. Out of curiosity (no rush) do we have a target start date?

Cheers,
Thor

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Re: Basic Training

Sun, 13 May 2007 22:28

Traveller

Warrant Officer

Messages: 118
Registered: March 2007
Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida, U...

As soon as Micha contacts me letting me know I have 8 valid race files I'll send the files to autohost asap.

I will gen the game turns between 7-8 AM EST (GMT -5) M-F before I leave for work each day, that gives everyone plenty of time, even those in Europe.

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Re: Basic Training

Mon, 14 May 2007 00:44

Captain Maim

Lt. Junior Grade

Messages: 492
Registered: March 2003
Location: USA, Mesa, Arizona

I'm good to go.

Rule 1: "Pillage, THEN burn!"

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Re: Basic Training

Mon, 14 May 2007 13:04

Traveller

Warrant Officer

Messages: 118
Registered: March 2007
Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida, U...

Micha tells me we have 8 races. He's double checking them before sending them to me. I need to have your race name, and e-mail address to send the data to autohost. The only thing I don't need is your Pass Word, only Micha will know those.

We will be playing in a small packed with 30 planets per player, as planned.

Conrad

happybeachboy@yahoo.com

[Updated on: Mon, 14 May 2007 13:06]

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Re: Basic Training

Mon, 14 May 2007 16:02

oldmetalhead

Petty Officer 3rd Class

Messages: 49
Registered: May 2007
Location: Troy, Ohio

You should already have mine Very Happy

Looking forward to the game.

oldmetalhead

Old metalheads don't die, they just Sail Away.

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Re: Basic Training

Mon, 14 May 2007 17:44

Traveller

Warrant Officer

Messages: 118
Registered: March 2007
Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida, U...

Micha has races from the following players.

Captain Maim
Kal Zekdor
Traveller
Leknufrag
Dashiva
Kelzar
Oldmetalhead
Thor
SgtWilko

That is 240 / 9 = 27 planets per player. If you are a total newbie (like me) then please take some time to read the following information.

http://starsautohost.org/gamesnew.htm

Also Micha has told me that he is allowing us until this weekend to revise and resubmit our races. I quote Micha (there are some that are pretty bad ...)

[Updated on: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:56]

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Re: Basic Training

Mon, 14 May 2007 18:55

Captain Maim

Lt. Junior Grade

Messages: 492
Registered: March 2003
Location: USA, Mesa, Arizona

Homeworlds will be spaced approximately 250ly apart. Which is good for stargate tech trading.

A little clostrophobic for me but I think I'll be able to manage.

[Updated on: Mon, 14 May 2007 20:00]

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Re: Basic Training

Tue, 15 May 2007 07:04

Soobie

Officer Cadet 3rd Year

Messages: 270
Registered: May 2007
Location: Australia

Oh yay. Welcome to my world. I join the day after a beginners game starts. Loving it.

Now I will wait patiently until the next beginner game starts Smile

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Re: Basic Training

Tue, 15 May 2007 07:12

oldmetalhead

Petty Officer 3rd Class

Messages: 49
Registered: May 2007
Location: Troy, Ohio

Hey, it hasen't started yet... Maybe you can still join? Surprised

oldmetalhead

Old metalheads don't die, they just Sail Away.

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Re: Basic Training

Tue, 15 May 2007 07:39

NingunOtro

Master Chief Petty Officer

Messages: 105
Registered: September 2005
Location: Brussels, Belgium

This is a beginners game (Micha does confirm that, with his comment on the quality of some of the races Cool

), but still it has to stay playable and enjoyable if we do not want people to turn away from the game due to bad experiences.

The planet per player ratio is a quite important factor that plays a decisive role in serious race design. You should design your race to be competitive with the number of planets you can expect to grab that are usefull.

Initial game setup allowed for 30 planets per player. Including you as a 9th player has put this back to 27, and this has been said to be going towards claustrofobic. Including Soobie would bring this down to 24.

It is not only just about allowing one more player into the game... it is about forcing everybody already in that is serious about race design to change theirs to meet significantly different starting conditions than the ones they started their initial design with.

If we were esteemed intelligent 'enough', they would have contacted us.
If we can not find them, either we are not smart enough, or they are smarter at hiding.

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Re: Basic Training

Tue, 15 May 2007 08:39

Traveller

Warrant Officer

Messages: 118
Registered: March 2007
Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida, U...

I understand your frustration, I've been waiting for months, and finally broke down and decided just to host my own beginers game. I set a deadline of 5-14-07 for races, you just missed it, sorry Smile

Once I get this running smoothly I will host (but not play) in a 2nd beginers game. So go ahead and design a race for that game with the same 30 ish planets per player density.

Conrad.

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Re: Basic Training

Tue, 15 May 2007 09:11

Traveller

Warrant Officer

Messages: 118
Registered: March 2007
Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida, U...

Quote:

Galaxy size be small and density will depend on the number of players but will contain approximately 30 planets per player.

After talking to Micha, he told me that 9 players would most likely result in a better initial game positioning 3 X 3 fairly evenly spaced with distant starting positions. One player will be in the middle (good or bad depending on your play style).

Adding a 10th player would spoil that even distritbution and also cramp the game too much. If I had notice sooner I would of changed to a medium game, but it's too late to change density from small packed to medium normal, that also effects race designs since travel times are much longer in normal density.

Conrad

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