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Re: How do U use Boosters?

Tue, 01 July 2003 12:20

mazda

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iztok wrote on Tue, 01 July 2003 13:53

Ekhm... Ever checked how much fuel uses a full PVT with standard engine going warp-9? For 3 full W-9 jumps you need to add a SFX or 3 FX to get there and return with the same speed. And you can use FXes as "gas stations" only each third year (+200 new fuel per turn). For a fast expansion you need A LOT of fuel (resources and minerals spent on FX/SFX) or FM. It's your preference to decide what's cheaper.
BR, Iztok

Sorry.
Yes, I should have been more specific.
I wasn't comparing FX with FM, so to speak.
I was suggesting that exports made a useful booster even without IFE and perhaps that exports sat in a stationary place could be as effective (or maybe moreso) than exports paired up with ships.

For non-IFE, evidence that using boosters is better than not using boosters will have to compare the cost of the boosters required to the loss of resources with pop in transit longer and the possible cost of extra PVT's needed (if we try and fill the planet at the same pace as booster assisted trips).

Regarding the comparison of stationary boosters with moving ones then I suggest the following :-

For short journeys then it is better to have them move with the PVT's.
The major factor is the refuelling of the exports fuel capacity at the end of each trip.
This more than offsets the fuel consumed by moving the export at warp 9 and the fact that effectively the export doesn't generate any fuel whilst at a refuelling starbase.

For longer trips it is less clear.
I find that a half full PVT with IS colonists can go 162 l.y. at warp 9, refuel at a group of exports, etc. etc., and get back at warp 9. So 243 l.y. both ways at warp 9.
A half full PVT with a single export can't make it 3 years at warp 9 and get back at warp 9.
i.e. the fuel consumed by moving the export means that the pair of ships runs out of fuel before the trip ends.

It is close though.

Anyone else care to expand ?

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