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Re: HE - usable?

Fri, 17 January 2003 00:40

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jeffimix wrote on Thu, 16 January 2003 20:56

The important thing is the growth can be put into hab values, so the 20% has a small value compared to the 10% HE, then the HE lives at twice as many places and produces same amount of colonists. The tri-immune is an extreme example and also can sometimes buy super factories et cetera (depending on stats but usually).

Normally at this point I concede an argument, deferring to those whose opinions I respect, but this time I know I'm right. I've been test-bedding races like crazy, and it's crystal clear to me; I just don't understand why nobody else gets it. True, an HE player can sell his growth down the river and make a tri-immune race with max factories, max mines, 50% research costs down the board, and a couple nice LRT's too. At 3% growth there's no need to sacrifice anything else. My point is, every other race can do exactly the same thing. You can take any prt down to a 3% tri-immunity at the same cost, and you'll produce the same number of colonists as an HE, but your planets are twice as large, and you still get stargates. (If you don't believe me, try an HE and another PRT with exactly the same growth and other settings in one testbed for comparison.) Does anyone not want a HW that's twice as large? If you could start with two HW's wouldn't that be a nice advantage? Comparing the HE to any other PRT, the non-HE may as well be getting two-for-one on every planet that he inhabits. Having to colonize twice as many planets to get the same result is in no way a good thing, especially without the stargates. Imagine me telling you in-game that your borders are going to have to be redefined because I'm an HE and therefore entitled to twice as many planets as everyone else. I'm sure that'd go over like a ton of bricks! Thumbs Down

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Don't say but CA can insta-form to so many planets, I think CA are an unbalanced race, compare HE to JoaT, the second strongest economy-race(IMHO).

Well, comparing a JOAT to the HE makes the HE come out even worse. The JOAT costs 35 points less t ...

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