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Re: HE - usable?

Fri, 27 December 2002 22:55

jeffimix

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Yeah, I'm slowly going through the Primary Racial Traits making a race design that I really like for each one before moving one. 16 tries with AR... everything from no immunities to three immunities and some redundancy I believe.

Low growth HE's are easy, I made a 5% one (kinda slow but still OK) I gave it silly high factory and mine settings, not to mention that both are Very cheap (5 and 2 cost) and then I gave it 1/1000 production. something like 15/5/20? and 15/2/18 all expensive weapons cheap no IFE (I have the settlers delight) I know early scouts get slowed a little, but I wouldn't play this race in a universe big enough for that to matter. Always take OBRM with tri-immune HEs. Its like NAS for JoaT. Easy race to design hard to play really. You get either a lot of little colonies or only a few big ones. The cheap factories and mines make ramp up probably the quickest non -F or AR. Hyper Expansion is a race I really like, I like the starting ships and the way I can make these silly yet good enough races with them. I just wouldn't play HE in anything larger than small (I think Jeff's should allow 100/250 and 150/600 gates for HE in medium+ universes or they just break down, I think that 300/500 shouldn't be given away though because well... thats just the way they play).

In design really factories cost 7/8 and mines 3 is usually fine, actually usually better. With a tri-immune HE I think 1/1000 should be a must since the low amount of population would cripple starting speed otherwise. (or Very cheap Very good factories and 1/2500 but they still don't work as well as a normal HE)

The metamorph can be overlooked. Really its extremely useful. Besides doubling as a freighter in peace time it can be equipped to shoot faster than a Battleship. That's good when you give it capital missiles and a couple over-thrusters = bomber killer. Not a perfect ship design but fun when they scream in rage because they now have so many useless missiles sitting in orbit. Using this Unsupported and you Will lose the met ...

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		HE - usable? By: freakyboy on Mon, 02 December 2002 13:43
		Re: HE - usable? By: EDog on Mon, 02 December 2002 23:16
		Re: HE - usable? By: BlueTurbit on Mon, 02 December 2002 23:54
		Re: HE - usable? By: Mangar on Tue, 03 December 2002 01:13
		Re: HE - usable? By: jeffimix on Tue, 03 December 2002 07:01
		Re: HE - usable? By: Stalwart on Tue, 03 December 2002 15:00
		Re: HE - usable? By: EDog on Tue, 03 December 2002 21:14
		Re: HE - usable? By: BlueTurbit on Wed, 04 December 2002 00:34
		Re: HE - usable? By: TheJorrus on Wed, 04 December 2002 10:41
		Re: HE - usable? By: SimonM on Wed, 04 December 2002 17:43
		Re: HE - usable? By: johng316 on Fri, 27 December 2002 18:19
		Re: HE - usable? By: Hetzer on Tue, 03 December 2002 16:11
		Re: HE - usable? By: freakyboy on Wed, 04 December 2002 13:40
		Re: HE - usable? By: Apelord on Wed, 04 December 2002 17:55
		Re: HE - usable? By: jeffimix on Wed, 04 December 2002 20:15
		Re: HE - usable? By: Apelord on Wed, 04 December 2002 20:35
		Re: HE - usable? By: tech25 on Wed, 04 December 2002 21:10
		Re: HE - usable? By: jeffimix on Wed, 04 December 2002 21:59
		Re: HE - usable? By: Apelord on Wed, 04 December 2002 22:33
		Re: HE - usable? By: jeffimix on Wed, 04 December 2002 22:39
		Re: HE - usable? By: freakyboy on Thu, 05 December 2002 02:36
		Re: HE - usable? By: FurFuznel on Thu, 05 December 2002 11:25
		Re: HE - usable? By: Apelord on Thu, 05 December 2002 12:59
		Re: HE - usable? By: Stalwart on Thu, 05 December 2002 13:58
		Re: HE - usable? By: Robert on Thu, 05 December 2002 14:14
		Re: HE - usable? By: Stalwart on Fri, 20 December 2002 15:54
		Re: HE - usable? By: TheJorrus on Mon, 13 January 2003 11:21
		Re: HE - usable? By: freakyboy on Fri, 27 December 2002 21:08
		Re: HE - usable? By: EDog on Fri, 27 December 2002 22:40
		Re: HE - usable? By: jeffimix on Fri, 27 December 2002 22:55
		Re: HE - usable? By: freakyboy on Sat, 28 December 2002 09:56
		Re: HE - usable? By: jeffimix on Sat, 28 December 2002 19:19
		Re: HE - usable? By: zoid on Sun, 29 December 2002 16:27
		Re: HE - usable? By: freakyboy on Sun, 29 December 2002 18:04
		Re: HE - usable? By: BlueTurbit on Sun, 29 December 2002 19:44
		Re: HE - usable? By: jeffimix on Sun, 29 December 2002 20:03
		Re: HE - usable? By: johng316 on Sun, 29 December 2002 19:40
		Re: HE - usable? By: zoid on Thu, 16 January 2003 00:36
		Re: HE - usable? By: TheJorrus on Thu, 16 January 2003 10:30
		Re: HE - usable? By: zoid on Thu, 16 January 2003 17:21
		Re: HE - usable? By: jeffimix on Thu, 16 January 2003 23:56
		Re: HE - usable? By: Sotek on Fri, 17 January 2003 00:17
		Re: HE - usable? By: zoid on Fri, 17 January 2003 00:40
		Re: HE - usable? By: TheJorrus on Sat, 18 January 2003 04:29
		Re: HE - usable? By: zoid on Sat, 18 January 2003 04:41
		Re: HE - usable? By: Sotek on Sat, 18 January 2003 05:18
		Re: HE - usable? By: zoid on Sat, 18 January 2003 14:51
		Re: HE - usable? By: Sotek on Sat, 18 January 2003 20:32
		Re: HE - usable? By: zoid on Sat, 18 January 2003 21:43
		Re: HE - usable? By: Sotek on Sat, 18 January 2003 22:27
		Re: HE - usable? By: zoid on Sun, 19 January 2003 00:59
		Re: HE - usable? By: ccmaster on Sat, 17 April 2004 12:42
		Re: HE - usable? By: multilis on Fri, 23 April 2004 14:48
		Re: HE - usable? By: Steve1 on Sat, 24 April 2004 14:17
		Re: HE - usable? By: Carn on Sat, 24 April 2004 14:34
		Re: HE - usable? By: Hetzer on Sat, 24 April 2004 21:33
		Re: HE - usable? By: mlaub on Sun, 25 April 2004 15:35
		Re: HE - usable? By: ccmaster on Sun, 25 April 2004 15:40
		Re: HE - usable? By: Carn on Sun, 25 April 2004 15:46
		Re: HE - usable? By: ccmaster on Sun, 25 April 2004 15:57
		Re: HE - usable? By: mlaub on Mon, 26 April 2004 11:14
		Re: HE - usable? By: ccmaster on Mon, 26 April 2004 15:44
		Re: HE - usable? By: mlaub on Mon, 26 April 2004 17:15
		Re: HE - usable? By: multilis on Mon, 26 April 2004 18:14
		Re: HE - usable? By: Crusader on Mon, 26 April 2004 18:25
		Re: HE - usable? By: ccmaster on Tue, 27 April 2004 09:24
		Re: HE - usable? By: mlaub on Tue, 27 April 2004 15:06
		Re: HE - usable? By: ccmaster on Wed, 28 April 2004 09:25
		Re: HE - usable? By: mlaub on Wed, 28 April 2004 10:15
		Re: HE - usable? By: Stalwart on Mon, 30 December 2002 00:10
		Re: HE - usable? By: freakyboy on Mon, 30 December 2002 02:30
		Re: HE - usable? By: johng316 on Mon, 30 December 2002 17:12
		Re: HE - usable? By: Stalwart on Mon, 30 December 2002 23:05
		Re: HE - usable? By: ninja_squirrel on Tue, 31 December 2002 06:27
		Re: HE - usable? By: freakyboy on Mon, 13 January 2003 14:13
		Re: HE - usable? By: zoid on Mon, 13 January 2003 19:19
		Re: HE - usable? By: TheJorrus on Tue, 14 January 2003 10:24
		Re: HE - usable? By: freakyboy on Tue, 14 January 2003 14:01
		Re: HE - usable? By: zoid on Tue, 14 January 2003 19:47
		Re: HE - usable? By: freakyboy on Thu, 16 January 2003 10:36
		Re: HE - usable? By: TheJorrus on Thu, 16 January 2003 10:42
		Re: HE - usable? By: BackBlast on Mon, 24 February 2003 17:30
		Re: HE - usable? By: yucaf on Tue, 25 February 2003 13:37
		Re: HE - usable? By: zoid on Tue, 25 February 2003 22:50
		Re: HE - usable? By: BackBlast on Wed, 26 February 2003 00:27
		Re: HE - usable? By: BlueTurbit on Wed, 26 February 2003 11:24
		Re: HE - usable? By: yucaf on Wed, 26 February 2003 23:43
		Re: HE - usable? By: Sotek on Sun, 19 January 2003 03:31
		Re: HE - usable? By: jeffimix on Sun, 19 January 2003 12:07
		Re: HE - usable? By: Apelord on Mon, 27 January 2003 11:56
		Re: HE - usable? By: zoid on Tue, 28 January 2003 03:24
		Re: HE - usable? By: gible on Wed, 29 January 2003 05:18
		Re: HE - usable? By: BlueTurbit on Wed, 05 February 2003 06:30
		Re: HE - usable? By: Steve1 on Wed, 10 September 2003 11:42
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