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mrvan wrote on Thu, 11 October 2018 22:48
Cool, thanks for sharing. I'm still figuring a lot of these intuitions out, and indeed 80 points in the RW is nothing to sneeze at. Another thing I really need to work on is when to take risks and when to play safe (=slow)...
Just for fun, I had a look at previous game's designs, and it seems that beamer ships take about twice as many resources as bora, and missile ships take about as much iron as resources. Thus, to keep up ship production you need a mining rate of around half your resources, right? If mineral concs are about 50 that would suggest you would need 10/10k mines, so I guess 8/10 means that you are devoting a structural 20% to research or terra - which sounds reasonable. It does sound like that would be very constraining later on when concs drop further, but I suppose a -f WM doesn't assume there will be a 'later on'...
So, an actual design I used @ 2442
DD, Rad Ram, 2x Bazooka, and Wolverine Shield.
Cost 18I, 16B, 16G, 60R.
HW at concentration levels of 49 I, 49 B and 47 G with 475k pop and full mines (380) results in mining rates of 186, 186, and 178.
With the 475k pop it can build ~8 such ships a year consuming 144, 128, 128. This is pretty typical across the production worlds, they actually slowly gain minerals rather than consume them during production as the worst case mineral (iron) is still running a 30% surplus. This is why I say it's possible to run 7/10k.
There is no "later on" if you fail to gain territory. You need at least 2x the space as a factory based race. The boon to this is you should have a much much higher overall mineral capacity in the fullness of time, and ability to turn those minerals into ships with WM discount, even if your economy is lower.
I should also point out, if you didn't already notice, that I don't check NRSE. I intentionally use scoops for the iron discount it provides my overall hulls and to have some use for the germ piles I'm accumulating. It makes the early beamers reasonably well balanced in total mineral consumption.
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By: mrvan on Thu, 11 October 2018 03:05
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Re: The Ring 2, victor's account
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Re: The Ring 2, victor's account
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