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Re: The Ring 2

Wed, 10 May 2017 00:28

nmid

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Hi Neil,

While I appreciate your efforts in setting up the game, I'm not comfortable with discussing general rules via individual mails only.
Not sure where we signed up for that.

Especially so, when you are proposing rules that weren't in the previous games.
Taking these discussions to a 1:1 has a high chance of a flawed game concept or an uneven game, as GTP turned out to be (fun though it might be).

> Above (IS, IT, HE, JOAT): Each percent >17% MPGR=+10 RWP set to defenses, e.g. 18% (9% HE) adds 10 points to defense.
I agree with CC and also ask why penalise HG races?
I would not want this condition.

> Starting Ships will be zerohacked (improved components of same type).
What's the point of giving a further starting advantage? Races with more starting ships get an advantage.
I would not want this condition.

>Everyone gets a choice of 3 additional starting ships based on race ability and modules present on zerohacked starting ships.
It's intriguing and tempting, but this is also giving a starting boost to a race and would help HP races who would rather spend early resources into building factories rather than ships.
I would not want this condition.

>Hosts will start disseminating information sometime after 2440. This will include facts (score, resource, # planets?) about those top players pulling away from the pack every ~5 years, and may include scuttlebutt concerning wars, tech, accidents, etc.
I don't want information to be shared by the host.
With no communications or allies, this is essentially a pitchforking step where remaining players stop attacking each other and band together against the top races.
Even if I'm not a top race, If I got to know this information, I would stop attacking my neighbour if HIS neighbour is #1 and move my ships to hamper the #1 race..
The difference between the source and timing of information makes a big impact.
If I found out by my own scouting, it would only be an individual effort. However if this was discovered by a host initiative, that would coordinate timings of actions between all races, resulting in a very effective pitch fork.

[Updated on: Wed, 10 May 2017 00:33]

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