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Re: The Ring 2 Fri, 31 March 2017 12:57 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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nmid wrote on Fri, 31 March 2017 05:05
Fair points.

The reason why I don't like the SS being penalised is that it has a horrible PRT RW points setup.
If you plan on penalizing the SS for it's one saving grace, then you should penalize the IS for it's freighter pop growth more, the WM for it's specialised hulls that are a game changer at the CC stage. The races that are currently over-penalized are the IT and the JOAT.


SS Gets more toys and boons than any other race in the game. That's why it's one of the most expensive PRTs. SS also has no obvious built-in glaring weaknesses - only that which came with the RW purchase of the PRT. You aren't trading those points in for nothing Shocked

I'm an experienced WM player. It is also an expensive PRT with many toys. I've played it more than any other PRT in large multiplayer games. I'm intimately familiar with it's strengths and weaknesses. While the strengths are strong, so are the weaknesses. The strengths don't get any stronger with this setup yet the weaknesses are even worse. The overall balance is negative. I'm not inclined to pick it for this game. But I also usually pick it for role playing points and fun anyway, not because I expect to win. I have and do pilot it to respectable finishes.

This game is purely tactical and I would only play with the expectation of trying to win outright. This strikes WM from my personal list.

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IT should have 100 points instead of 150 penalty. I don't think any race is viable with a -150 point penalty.. except perhaps CA.


Might be too harsh, IT already is the most expensive PRT. I'm playing a race with a -150 point penalty right now. It hurts. A lot.

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JOAT should not have double penalty.. I personally don't like it being forced not to take NAS. 25 points penalty is good enough. It's meant to be a powerhouse with an early game scout boost. You're impairing the early game boost it has and I've always said the starting 20 years decides the game.


I'm not seeing the impairment. I actually think the JOAT penalty is on the light side. NAS is a 95 RW point mine for the price of gaining an additional advantage of doubling normal scanner range. As it currently stands, JOAT is still the strongest economic race with the current layout. It's just not quite as overwhelmingly so. I kind of like where it's at.

If you want to be able to take JOAT and NAS, I'm in favor of allowing it if you accept the additional -95 point penalty for the advantage - making the move a net zero.

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This is in line with what I said earlier, the IS, WM dont get penalised for it's race advantages while the JOAT gets hit.


But IS does have a penalty...? And I did talk in favor about boosting it.

Anyway, sounds like we have a host and he should finalize the rules and end our colorful discussion with the hammer of finality Cool

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