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Re: New Game for Beginners

Thu, 12 January 2017 17:40

Altruist

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Players - beginners, rusty old timers:
Entropicurity
talkingbologna

Players - experienced:
vmanuel
ccmaster

Well, from my hosting experience with the Fledgling Admirals series I'd say it is nay impossible to put restrictions on vmanuel and ccmaster vs beginners. Either the beginners have no chance or the restrictions would be so harsh that it doesn't allow for a somehow normal stars game but the experienced are forced to a very strange approach which leads to a "wrong" example how to play stars.

Nevertheless it is not always bad to have experienced and new players in the same game IF
a) every experienced player must ally with one beginner
and
b) the experienced players are willing to put as much effort into communication as the beginners reading up on strat articles and learning... resulting in a very steep and often enough learning curve.

I was always astonished how fast new players in the Fledgling Admiral series were able to jump from beginner to intermediate in just one game when they got some directions towards the wealth of existing articles... this wealth is a bit (too) overwhelming if a beginner needs to work through it completly on his own but teamed up...

And don't make a too big and long game for beginners. A small one lasts already long enough.

What about the following setup:

Size: small sized universe
* dense for 6 players
* packed for 8 players

And to concentrate on the game mechanics and not on diplomacy:
* Alliance of 2 players, no more, no less can win the game (last alliance standing or unanimous vote of remaining players)
* only tech exchange with ally
* only ally set to friend, all other set to enemy
* all battle orders must be set at "attack who = enemies"

PRT restrictions:
* beginners may not play PP or AR
* experienced may not play CA, JoaT (additionally ccmaster may not play HE, Altruist not IT)
* if you want to throw in another 100 leftover pts in the race wizard set to defenses for the experienced, that's ok... more and you get weird race designs

If you need another experienced player, I'd play as well... and would be also willing to communicate with beginner ally (much more fun this way anyway if you have another eager crazy person in the universe to ramble about strat & tact).

Great would be if the host is not playing and willing to give some feedback and hints to the beginners about their sent in reace designs to avoid too obvious errors and to allow them some changes. No need to create a completly balanced universe, to cope with strange starting positions is part of the game but it would be helpful if
a) the starting positions allowed somehow for newbies and experienced to team up
or
b) at the start of the game the host gives (only) to the newbies the coordination of all experienced players and then they can decide what to do with it.

[Updated on: Thu, 12 January 2017 17:50]

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		New Game for Beginners By: ManicLurch on Sat, 17 December 2016 18:30
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: antey007 on Thu, 22 December 2016 00:04
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Entropicurity on Wed, 28 December 2016 09:03
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ManicLurch on Wed, 28 December 2016 14:20
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Entropicurity on Wed, 28 December 2016 16:09
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ManicLurch on Thu, 29 December 2016 14:52
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: vmanuel on Wed, 04 January 2017 00:50
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Entropicurity on Wed, 04 January 2017 10:18
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ManicLurch on Fri, 06 January 2017 13:36
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ccmaster on Mon, 09 January 2017 11:50
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: talkingbologna on Mon, 09 January 2017 14:45
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Entropicurity on Tue, 10 January 2017 07:59
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ManicLurch on Wed, 11 January 2017 17:24
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: iztok on Wed, 11 January 2017 18:59
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Entropicurity on Wed, 11 January 2017 19:41
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ccmaster on Wed, 11 January 2017 19:56
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Altruist on Thu, 12 January 2017 17:40
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: talkingbologna on Wed, 11 January 2017 22:37
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ccmaster on Thu, 12 January 2017 00:22
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Entropicurity on Thu, 12 January 2017 08:54
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ccmaster on Thu, 12 January 2017 14:12
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: talkingbologna on Thu, 12 January 2017 23:33
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ccmaster on Fri, 13 January 2017 11:06
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Anonymous Coward on Fri, 13 January 2017 15:21
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Entropicurity on Sat, 14 January 2017 10:43
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: theene on Sat, 14 January 2017 19:45
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Entropicurity on Mon, 16 January 2017 10:09
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: talkingbologna on Mon, 16 January 2017 14:36
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: mijgo on Tue, 17 January 2017 06:57
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Entropicurity on Tue, 17 January 2017 11:08
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: theene on Tue, 17 January 2017 09:51
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: mijgo on Wed, 18 January 2017 07:30
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Altruist on Wed, 18 January 2017 08:40
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: mijgo on Wed, 18 January 2017 09:57
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ManicLurch on Thu, 19 January 2017 23:11
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: mijgo on Fri, 20 January 2017 02:01
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: XAPBob on Fri, 20 January 2017 05:06
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: mijgo on Fri, 20 January 2017 06:09
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Entropicurity on Fri, 20 January 2017 09:35
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ManicLurch on Fri, 20 January 2017 11:39
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Altruist on Sat, 21 January 2017 11:56
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: BackBlast on Fri, 20 January 2017 15:06
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: mijgo on Fri, 20 January 2017 16:36
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Entropicurity on Fri, 20 January 2017 17:08
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ManicLurch on Fri, 20 January 2017 19:10
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: BackBlast on Mon, 23 January 2017 16:59
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: mijgo on Sat, 21 January 2017 15:21
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ccmaster on Sun, 22 January 2017 10:12
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ccmaster on Sun, 22 January 2017 10:13
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ManicLurch on Thu, 26 January 2017 22:35
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ccmaster on Fri, 27 January 2017 00:34
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Altruist on Fri, 27 January 2017 13:26
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ccmaster on Sat, 28 January 2017 05:22
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ManicLurch on Sat, 28 January 2017 13:32
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: dlrichert on Sun, 29 January 2017 15:21
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ManicLurch on Sun, 29 January 2017 18:41
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Altruist on Mon, 30 January 2017 12:08
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ccmaster on Mon, 30 January 2017 15:26
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: BackBlast on Tue, 31 January 2017 09:48
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: BackBlast on Wed, 01 February 2017 22:59
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ManicLurch on Thu, 02 February 2017 09:18
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: nmid on Thu, 02 February 2017 10:10
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: BackBlast on Fri, 03 February 2017 00:47
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ccmaster on Fri, 03 February 2017 09:23
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Entropicurity on Fri, 03 February 2017 14:21
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Entropicurity on Mon, 23 January 2017 11:07
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: neilhoward on Mon, 23 January 2017 15:21
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: mijgo on Sun, 29 January 2017 05:24
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: talkingbologna on Tue, 31 January 2017 13:06
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Entropicurity on Wed, 01 February 2017 09:06
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: theene on Thu, 02 February 2017 10:29
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: talkingbologna on Fri, 03 February 2017 18:36
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Altruist on Sat, 04 February 2017 00:16
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ManicLurch on Sat, 04 February 2017 12:56
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: BackBlast on Sun, 05 February 2017 21:57
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: BackBlast on Thu, 16 March 2017 11:33
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: talkingbologna on Sun, 05 February 2017 02:19
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ManicLurch on Sun, 05 February 2017 15:11
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Entropicurity on Sun, 05 February 2017 21:30
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: BackBlast on Mon, 06 February 2017 00:39
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Altruist on Mon, 06 February 2017 10:52
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ccmaster on Mon, 06 February 2017 11:26
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: BackBlast on Mon, 06 February 2017 11:58
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Entropicurity on Mon, 06 February 2017 12:08
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: BackBlast on Tue, 07 February 2017 00:51
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Entropicurity on Wed, 08 February 2017 20:55
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: mrvan on Thu, 09 February 2017 11:00
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: BackBlast on Thu, 09 February 2017 12:17
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Altruist on Fri, 10 February 2017 01:10
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Entropicurity on Fri, 10 February 2017 09:54
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ManicLurch on Sat, 11 February 2017 17:19
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: theene on Thu, 09 February 2017 18:52
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Entropicurity on Fri, 10 February 2017 09:43
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: talkingbologna on Mon, 13 February 2017 22:48
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Entropicurity on Wed, 15 February 2017 09:41
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: vmanuel on Thu, 16 February 2017 02:37
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: mijgo on Thu, 16 February 2017 08:38
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: BackBlast on Fri, 17 February 2017 14:36
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: talkingbologna on Fri, 17 February 2017 15:59
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ManicLurch on Sat, 18 February 2017 14:51
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Altruist on Sun, 19 February 2017 11:05
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ManicLurch on Mon, 20 February 2017 00:59
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: BackBlast on Tue, 21 February 2017 15:23
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: theene on Tue, 28 February 2017 04:13
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: BackBlast on Tue, 28 February 2017 09:38
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Altruist on Tue, 28 February 2017 12:51
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: theene on Tue, 21 February 2017 18:30
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Ron on Tue, 21 February 2017 23:13
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Ron on Fri, 24 February 2017 09:14
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ManicLurch on Sat, 25 February 2017 13:10
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Altruist on Sun, 26 February 2017 17:09
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: BackBlast on Sun, 26 February 2017 20:27
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Altruist on Mon, 27 February 2017 08:26
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: BackBlast on Mon, 27 February 2017 09:44
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: vmanuel on Mon, 27 February 2017 23:27
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ManicLurch on Mon, 27 February 2017 23:32
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Altruist on Tue, 28 February 2017 08:39
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: theene on Tue, 28 February 2017 18:54
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: mijgo on Wed, 01 March 2017 23:04
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Altruist on Fri, 03 March 2017 12:10
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: BackBlast on Sun, 05 March 2017 18:02
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: iztok on Mon, 06 March 2017 06:51
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: talkingbologna on Wed, 01 March 2017 23:21
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: mijgo on Tue, 07 March 2017 04:15
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: mijgo on Tue, 07 March 2017 04:23
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: talkingbologna on Thu, 23 March 2017 16:59
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Ron on Fri, 24 March 2017 13:37
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: talkingbologna on Wed, 05 April 2017 03:37
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: mijgo on Wed, 05 April 2017 04:40
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Altruist on Wed, 05 April 2017 11:09
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ManicLurch on Thu, 06 April 2017 13:32
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Akchir on Wed, 05 April 2017 06:22
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: mijgo on Wed, 05 April 2017 06:24
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: ManicLurch on Thu, 06 April 2017 13:35
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: theene on Wed, 05 April 2017 06:27
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: Akchir on Wed, 05 April 2017 07:00
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: talkingbologna on Wed, 12 April 2017 12:50
		Re: New Game for Beginners By: theene on Wed, 24 May 2017 10:16

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