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Re: Narrow Hab IT w/100% second world Tue, 30 July 2013 15:52 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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LittleEddie wrote on Fri, 26 July 2013 22:17

First off you have to have an understanding some of what goes into making a map for each game

From my Research a map is made based on 3 items when using a .DEF file to make a game.
1. the Random seed used in the .DEF File. This give you one of 4096 possible maps as long as items 2 & 3 stay the same. I've ran a few million gens and if items 2 & 3 don't change you get the same map every 4096th gen (so random seed X & X+4096 are the same)

2. Each major race type is assigned some unknown value and these are added up to get a second seed. You can change the order of the races and you get the same seed, if you change any one race then you get a different seed. So if item 1 & 3 stay the same and you switch one race from SS to SD you get a different seed sometimes.

3. Within each race a value is assigned by the settings in the Custom Race Wizard and these are added up to get a third seed. If you change any race settings you may or may not get a new seed as I didn't research every setting but changing a races Habs or growth rate will change the seed it appears. So with 6 races in a game the 6 values are added together for the seed.

There may be more to it, but that's what I've been able to figure out so far. Now these 3 items are put together and somehow Stars makes a new game.

Now if you know ITEM 2, the races used in a game, you can find ITEM 1 by genning 4096 games with those race types and find the one that has the same planet X & Y locations. But without ITEM 3 the home worlds(HW) will be different and all the planet habs also are different


Fantastic research work.

From what I've seen in my testbeds (I always use 0530), as long as the universe size and player numbers remains the same, I have not noticed any change in the seed number / universe / planet habs.... apart from perhaps the HW of my race. Perhaps that's the only change, because I didn't notice any other.

Also the race type only makes a difference on account of I
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