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Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers)

Thu, 13 September 2012 05:59

Mark Hewitt

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Bob wrote on Thu, 13 September 2012 02:07]I took the starting position from a post for a beginer game:

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3: Can you produce at least 50 Arm BBs by 2460 in a small packed Acc BBs uni with 1x expert Cybertron, Macinti, and Robotoid?

OK - so I went dense rather than packed - oops.

There is every chance (at the rate I could be going) that there won't be anyone to fight well before that.

All testbeds (without AI) and testwars (with AI) are better at comparing two race designs against one another than judging their absolute merit. You should use a .def with a seed value so you can run the exact same planet layout. The second time around in a testwar you'll know where the AI's are but you find that out early anyhoo. You try to play all of the runs the same way, but your economic play is likely to improve and the AI does different things so you have to react to that.

The goal of using a testwar with AI is to get closer to the conditions of playing against human opponents, ie. you have to produce armed ships and defenses and you have to balance expansion and tech improvement with defending and warfighting.

I'd suggest you switch to using the tougher AI set to expert, as I suggested above (eg 2 SS and 1 HE). You can also set the flag to allow the AI to ally against you. A second change is not eliminate the AI but only grab key planets and hold them off and get to that # ARM BB's by 2460 goal (simulates trying to improve tech and build a fleet while having another race as an obstacle that you can't completely eliminate as an early war of conquest would hurt you too much). You can also drop the density to dense or normal as you'll have a smaller empire and you'll be under more pressure as the AI will press on you sooner.

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		-f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: XAPBob on Wed, 12 September 2012 14:32
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: Mark Hewitt on Wed, 12 September 2012 18:36
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: XAPBob on Thu, 13 September 2012 04:07
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: Mark Hewitt on Thu, 13 September 2012 05:59
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: ManicLurch on Thu, 13 September 2012 16:39
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: XAPBob on Thu, 13 September 2012 09:54
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: Altruist on Thu, 13 September 2012 15:19
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: Mark Hewitt on Thu, 13 September 2012 20:15
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: magic9mushroom on Thu, 13 September 2012 21:58
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: XAPBob on Fri, 14 September 2012 05:07
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: magic9mushroom on Fri, 14 September 2012 11:03
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: XAPBob on Sat, 15 September 2012 03:12
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: Altruist on Sat, 15 September 2012 14:37
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: XAPBob on Sun, 16 September 2012 03:17
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: magic9mushroom on Sun, 16 September 2012 06:41
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: Altruist on Sun, 16 September 2012 08:39
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: magic9mushroom on Sun, 16 September 2012 08:56
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: Coyote on Sat, 15 September 2012 18:20
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: Altruist on Sat, 15 September 2012 22:39
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: XAPBob on Sun, 16 September 2012 03:10
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: XAPBob on Sun, 16 September 2012 13:14
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: Coyote on Sun, 16 September 2012 14:44
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: XAPBob on Sun, 16 September 2012 14:47
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: Mark Hewitt on Sun, 16 September 2012 15:16
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: magic9mushroom on Sun, 16 September 2012 22:29
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: XAPBob on Mon, 17 September 2012 02:17
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: magic9mushroom on Mon, 17 September 2012 02:40
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: XAPBob on Mon, 17 September 2012 04:54
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: magic9mushroom on Mon, 17 September 2012 05:48
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: XAPBob on Mon, 17 September 2012 07:37
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: LittleEddie on Mon, 17 September 2012 20:32
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: Mark Hewitt on Mon, 17 September 2012 22:55
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: Altruist on Mon, 17 September 2012 23:12
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: Coyote on Tue, 18 September 2012 01:56
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: XAPBob on Tue, 18 September 2012 06:16
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: magic9mushroom on Tue, 18 September 2012 08:06
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: XAPBob on Tue, 18 September 2012 08:44
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: magic9mushroom on Tue, 18 September 2012 10:17
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: XAPBob on Tue, 18 September 2012 10:32
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: magic9mushroom on Tue, 18 September 2012 18:38
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: Altruist on Tue, 18 September 2012 12:35
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: magic9mushroom on Tue, 18 September 2012 01:54
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: XAPBob on Wed, 19 September 2012 06:07
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: magic9mushroom on Wed, 19 September 2012 06:15
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: XAPBob on Wed, 19 September 2012 09:15
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: Altruist on Wed, 19 September 2012 13:51
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: Mark Hewitt on Wed, 19 September 2012 21:22
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: magic9mushroom on Wed, 19 September 2012 22:40
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: Mark Hewitt on Wed, 19 September 2012 23:31
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: magic9mushroom on Thu, 20 September 2012 01:21
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: XAPBob on Thu, 20 September 2012 11:27
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: ccmaster on Mon, 01 October 2012 15:25
		Re: -f benchmarks (IT or ithers) By: XAPBob on Mon, 01 October 2012 13:58

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