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Re: Another beginner game

Thu, 04 October 2012 06:45

Anonymous Coward

If anything, Large/Normal for 8 players could give enough time to really build up economically, making the later wars really fierce and interesting.
Still, for a "beginner" label, this would be probably too rich - typically, 30-40 planets per player is enough workload.
This can be safely done with these two settings:
1) Medium normal:
- 36 planets per player
- 180 000 sq.l.y. per player (amounts to a square 424 x 424 l.y = LOTS of room, will take 6+ years to traverse)
- players' starting positions expected to be at least 500 l.y. from each other - initial contact unlikely within first 10 years
2) Small packed:
- 30 planets per player
- 80 000 sq.l.y. per player (amounts to a square 283 x 283 l.y. = still lots of room, albeit traversible within 5 years or so)
- players' starting positions expected to be approx. 300-350 l.y from each other - initial contact possible within first 10 years
I'd say medium/normal for enough breathing room and a bit more planets per player, or small/packed for a more close-quarters engagement (nowhere near the Knife Fight In A Phone Box series, though) and a bit less micromanagement.
If we opt for a slow-tech game, then I'd rather make it medium/normal.

And just to address on what was said earlier:
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...Well, AR benefits more from not having AccBBS than HP, IMHO. The lesser pop means they're initially more efficient, and you can still spread and research Energy early for the huge resource boost. Ban on Kill Starbase is obviously good as well.

That's all true, but if we're talking a slow tech game here, ARs are out of the question, at least for me (I can't speak for someone who likes running a marathon ball'n'chained). Ticking slow tech is cutting AR's economic growth rate in half. Simple as that.

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