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Fri, 13 May 2011 11:10

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nmid wrote on Fri, 13 May 2011 01:40

consequences is ofcourse more important

Phew! For a moment you got me to believe that you actually meant that all evildoers were the same! Shocked

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Being speedsters caused the accident.

Speeding around a school in an urban area caused the accident. The speedsters that did it on the autobahn in the middle of nowhere met no pedestrians. Deal

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(I'm polite not to call minor unintended cheats as cheaters..)

Hopefully others will follow your example! Very Happy

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ofc.. hence I say call the extreme level of cheaters as Abusers or hard-core cheaters.

Of course, now you need to redefine other words to fill the gaps that your initial redefinition caused. Rolling Eyes

Why throw overboard the perfectly valid labels that have been in use until now, just to end up using other labels to say exactly the same? For the confusion value? Confused

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A person has to "break rules" to be called a cheater.

Here they have to do a bit more than that for everybody else to even bother noticing them. Rules-benders and breakers don't and shouldn't get the same level of attention, notoriety or punishment that true cheaters get. Deal

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Not someone. Only the Host's.

And those of all the players in the game, particularly those who might feel wronged by any of a number of obscure reasons, and of everyone who happens by one of these silly threads to add their bit of gravel to the general stoning, and... Shocked

Start on that route and soon it will not matter anyway, because everyone will have been publicly listed and pilloried, and the only net result will have been that some whiners will have got their ego boosted with the blood of innocents, and the general amusement of those who know better. Nana nana bubu

Why is that so hard to understand?

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Sure.. rule bending I can take.
Rule breaking, not.
Rule breaking = cheating.
Pop dropping = Cheating
MT Catching = Cheating
Keeping MT ships after punishment = Rule bending/lawyering.

So what? Each of those can be adequately punished in-game, even if some hosts are harsher than others. There's no need for all the public outcry and drama. Deal

Unless... unless some players feel that the in-game punishment hasn't been enough, and, wanting to best their host, resort to public humiliation and gangbanging in order to inflict more damage to their enemy than the game's rules and host allow. And what should we call that? Whip

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I'll just ignore anyone who calls me a cheater if he takes this "hardest" stance.. and I'll not be bothered by those players who believe this guy.

You seem to be getting it, finally! Cool

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...After flaming the name-caller once Very Happy

As long as it's in-game, and hopefully in-character... it can even be positive! Deal

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I see intent, you don't. That's fine... but you are in a very small minority.

You think intent matters, I don't. There's plenty adequate punishment (already or soon to be dealt) for what Mac did. And it's not this. Whatever the whiners say, or how many they are, is entirely irrelevant. Hit over head

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Fine with me Smile

And what will you do if he thinks you're a serial cheater? Throw the dictionary at him? Rolling Eyes

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Time for a change then..

What change? You're proposing exactly the same thing in the end, with some changed words and a lot more hassle for much the same result. Confused3

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Intent. Intent. Intent. Once you cheat, you cheat.
Call the extreme, abusers.
Why give middle level cheaters the advantage of not calling them cheaters?

Simplicity, equity, custom, damage control, reputation protection, hassle, hosting space savings... Rolling Eyes

You: hardcore abusers, abusers, middle-level cheaters, cheaters, minor cheaters...

Me: cheaters, breakers, benders, careless, stupid, irrelevant...

... and guess what's easier to apply, is already in use, a lot more objective, and saves endless drama. Twisted Evil

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I refuse to buy into the argument that new players can't change it, especially if they have a valid point of view.
You are acting like the church against change. You've got a nice little world setup an

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So many Stars, so few Missiles!

In space no one can hear you scheme! Deal

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		Re: lol Mac cheats By: m.a@stars on Thu, 12 May 2011 00:12
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		Quote Wars. By: nmid on Thu, 12 May 2011 00:17
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		Re: Quote Wars. By: m.a@stars on Fri, 13 May 2011 11:10
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		Re: Quote Wars. By: nmid on Fri, 13 May 2011 11:28
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		Re: lol Mac cheats By: m.a@stars on Sat, 14 May 2011 00:03
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		Final Chapter? Mac cheated. Hopefully for the last time. By: nmid on Sat, 14 May 2011 20:55
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		Re: Final Chapter? Mac cheated. Hopefully for the last time. By: Ron on Sun, 15 May 2011 21:20
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