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Re: Mac is a cheater

Thu, 05 May 2011 10:01

Anonymous Coward

... and just imagine that it all started with just my question about what cheat was identified (if any), and how.

What followed was a lengthy war on... semantics, really.

For some, bending the rules set out by the host is cheating. For others, only abusing known game-engine flaws qualifies as cheating. Some say all illegitimate actions are cheating. Others say only intentional actions are to be viewed as such.

To cut it short, there are probably as many views on cheating as there are players in the Stars! Comunity themselves.

I'd just say let's leave the "guilt and punishment" decision-making in the hands of the host. That's what he's for: if he sets out rules, he should be prepared to enforce them, identify infractions and mete out punishment to those responsible. Each one of us is free to have his (or her) own opinion. Let's just not try to enforce our view on others, shall we?

I was just as curious what it takes to be called a "cheater", hence I asked my question. Looking at the length of the discussion that ensued, I cannot say that I didn't get the opportunity to find out. For this, let me express my thanks to anyone involved in this discussion so far. It was really enlightening.

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		Mac is (almost) a cheater By: neilhoward on Wed, 27 April 2011 15:43
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Anonymous Coward on Wed, 27 April 2011 16:15
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: neilhoward on Wed, 27 April 2011 23:42
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Thu, 28 April 2011 12:27
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Fri, 29 April 2011 09:10
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: neilhoward on Fri, 29 April 2011 19:18
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Fri, 29 April 2011 22:42
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Orange on Thu, 28 April 2011 13:39
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Wed, 27 April 2011 16:24
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Thu, 28 April 2011 15:34
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: BlueTurbit on Thu, 28 April 2011 16:00
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Orange on Thu, 28 April 2011 16:22
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Thu, 28 April 2011 20:02
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Thu, 28 April 2011 20:48
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Fri, 29 April 2011 00:43
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Fri, 29 April 2011 10:32
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Fri, 29 April 2011 21:31
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Fri, 29 April 2011 22:26
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: neilhoward on Sat, 30 April 2011 02:20
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Sat, 30 April 2011 07:22
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Sat, 30 April 2011 14:25
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Sat, 30 April 2011 18:25
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Sat, 30 April 2011 20:59
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Sun, 01 May 2011 18:53
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Sun, 01 May 2011 20:19
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Sun, 01 May 2011 23:25
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Mon, 02 May 2011 00:35
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 10:05
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Fri, 29 April 2011 00:39
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Fri, 29 April 2011 07:17
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Fri, 29 April 2011 10:23
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Fri, 29 April 2011 18:18
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Fri, 29 April 2011 14:11
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Fri, 29 April 2011 15:30
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Fri, 29 April 2011 17:58
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Mon, 02 May 2011 00:52
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 10:11
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Sun, 01 May 2011 20:13
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Sun, 01 May 2011 23:22
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Mon, 02 May 2011 01:31
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Mon, 02 May 2011 02:34
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 10:18
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Mon, 02 May 2011 10:56
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 11:07
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Mon, 02 May 2011 12:51
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 14:41
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Tue, 03 May 2011 11:52
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Tue, 03 May 2011 13:17
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Tue, 03 May 2011 14:15
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Tue, 03 May 2011 18:19
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Tue, 03 May 2011 18:27
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: ManicLurch on Tue, 03 May 2011 18:48
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Tue, 03 May 2011 18:58
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: ManicLurch on Tue, 03 May 2011 19:17
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Tue, 03 May 2011 19:21
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Wed, 04 May 2011 09:38
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Wed, 04 May 2011 10:44
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Wed, 04 May 2011 10:54
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Wed, 04 May 2011 11:14
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Wed, 04 May 2011 15:56
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Wed, 04 May 2011 16:57
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Wed, 04 May 2011 18:48
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Ron on Wed, 04 May 2011 22:07
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 08:58
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: gible on Mon, 02 May 2011 04:18
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Mon, 02 May 2011 05:39
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: gible on Mon, 02 May 2011 06:02
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Mon, 02 May 2011 07:30
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 10:21
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Tue, 03 May 2011 08:37
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 10:56
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: gible on Tue, 03 May 2011 04:06
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Tue, 03 May 2011 07:44
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: gible on Tue, 03 May 2011 09:07
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: iztok on Tue, 03 May 2011 09:08
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Tue, 03 May 2011 12:11
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Mon, 02 May 2011 09:33
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 10:31
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Ron on Mon, 02 May 2011 11:14
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: BlueTurbit on Mon, 02 May 2011 13:10
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 14:44
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Ron on Mon, 02 May 2011 11:34
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 11:43
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Mon, 02 May 2011 11:41
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Mon, 02 May 2011 13:14
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 14:43
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Ron on Tue, 03 May 2011 10:35
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Tue, 03 May 2011 12:16
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Tue, 03 May 2011 18:56
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Wed, 04 May 2011 10:41
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Wed, 04 May 2011 10:16
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Wed, 04 May 2011 12:50
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Wed, 04 May 2011 13:30
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Wed, 04 May 2011 13:32
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Wed, 04 May 2011 16:35
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Wed, 04 May 2011 17:45
		CA knowledge is an exploit? (was -Re: Mac is a cheater) By: vonKreedon on Wed, 04 May 2011 18:19
		Re: CA knowledge is an exploit? (was -Re: Mac is a cheater) By: nmid on Wed, 04 May 2011 18:34
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Wed, 04 May 2011 19:12
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Thu, 05 May 2011 08:11
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Wed, 04 May 2011 21:24
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Wed, 04 May 2011 21:37
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 08:55
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Thu, 05 May 2011 08:58
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 09:14
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Thu, 05 May 2011 10:14
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 11:49
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: BlueTurbit on Thu, 05 May 2011 15:20
		Mac broke some rules By: neilhoward on Thu, 05 May 2011 15:59
		Re: Mac broke some rules By: Centaurian on Thu, 05 May 2011 18:07
		Re: Mac broke some rules By: neilhoward on Thu, 05 May 2011 21:54
		Re: Mac broke some rules By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 22:19
		Re: Mac broke some rules By: nmid on Thu, 05 May 2011 23:40
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 22:16
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Thu, 05 May 2011 21:13
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 22:25
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Thu, 05 May 2011 23:44
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Fri, 06 May 2011 00:53
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Fri, 06 May 2011 11:25
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Wed, 04 May 2011 22:54
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: gible on Thu, 05 May 2011 00:37
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 09:02
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: gible on Thu, 05 May 2011 16:51
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 09:01
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Anonymous Coward on Thu, 05 May 2011 10:01
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 10:52
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Fri, 06 May 2011 01:01
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Fri, 06 May 2011 01:11
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: gible on Fri, 06 May 2011 04:29
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: neilhoward on Fri, 06 May 2011 04:37
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Fri, 06 May 2011 01:24
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Fri, 06 May 2011 11:47
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Fri, 06 May 2011 11:48
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Fri, 06 May 2011 12:33
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Fri, 06 May 2011 11:50
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Fri, 06 May 2011 13:20
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: BlueTurbit on Fri, 06 May 2011 13:59
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Ron on Fri, 06 May 2011 14:44

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