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Re: CA knowledge is an exploit? (was -Re: Mac is a cheater)

Wed, 04 May 2011 18:34

nmid

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vonKreedon wrote on Thu, 05 May 2011 03:49

This is a tangent from the fight over the definition of "cheater".

Eagle said:

Quote:

Just to give you an example, only recently I had another player telling me all the habs of every players in a game because he's CA. News flash: I'm CA too and I never looked at their habs in all that game, nor will I do either because that's an exploit... And when he came forward with it, I explained the concept of an exploit and I am under the impression that I actually got thru to him.

My understanding is that this is one of the capabilities of CA, not an unethical exploit. I'm absolutely not going to fight about this; I'm just curious about Eagle's thinking using the capability is unethical.

Arguably a debatable exploit but definitely not a 1-turn game changing exploit, so a non-critical "exploit".
At the max, it could be important in the starting 20 years, but after that, it's just an interesting feature to see all the varied server habs.

I doubt that the Jeffs meant for a CA to see the habs of every player, ally or enemy, instantly.
Perhaps if they had the habs getting revealed only after 1 year of changing ally relations, that would have solved the problem.

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I used to curse when I got stuck in traffic... till I realised I AM traffic.

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		Mac is (almost) a cheater By: neilhoward on Wed, 27 April 2011 15:43
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Anonymous Coward on Wed, 27 April 2011 16:15
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: neilhoward on Wed, 27 April 2011 23:42
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Thu, 28 April 2011 12:27
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Fri, 29 April 2011 09:10
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: neilhoward on Fri, 29 April 2011 19:18
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Fri, 29 April 2011 22:42
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Orange on Thu, 28 April 2011 13:39
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Wed, 27 April 2011 16:24
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Thu, 28 April 2011 15:34
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: BlueTurbit on Thu, 28 April 2011 16:00
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Orange on Thu, 28 April 2011 16:22
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Thu, 28 April 2011 20:02
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Thu, 28 April 2011 20:48
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Fri, 29 April 2011 00:43
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Fri, 29 April 2011 10:32
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Fri, 29 April 2011 21:31
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Fri, 29 April 2011 22:26
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: neilhoward on Sat, 30 April 2011 02:20
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Sat, 30 April 2011 07:22
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Sat, 30 April 2011 14:25
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Sat, 30 April 2011 18:25
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Sat, 30 April 2011 20:59
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Sun, 01 May 2011 18:53
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Sun, 01 May 2011 20:19
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Sun, 01 May 2011 23:25
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Mon, 02 May 2011 00:35
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 10:05
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Fri, 29 April 2011 00:39
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Fri, 29 April 2011 07:17
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Fri, 29 April 2011 10:23
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Fri, 29 April 2011 18:18
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Fri, 29 April 2011 14:11
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Fri, 29 April 2011 15:30
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Fri, 29 April 2011 17:58
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Mon, 02 May 2011 00:52
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 10:11
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Sun, 01 May 2011 20:13
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Sun, 01 May 2011 23:22
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Mon, 02 May 2011 01:31
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Mon, 02 May 2011 02:34
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 10:18
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Mon, 02 May 2011 10:56
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 11:07
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Mon, 02 May 2011 12:51
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 14:41
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Tue, 03 May 2011 11:52
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Tue, 03 May 2011 13:17
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Tue, 03 May 2011 14:15
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Tue, 03 May 2011 18:19
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Tue, 03 May 2011 18:27
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: ManicLurch on Tue, 03 May 2011 18:48
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Tue, 03 May 2011 18:58
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: ManicLurch on Tue, 03 May 2011 19:17
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Tue, 03 May 2011 19:21
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Wed, 04 May 2011 09:38
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Wed, 04 May 2011 10:44
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Wed, 04 May 2011 10:54
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Wed, 04 May 2011 11:14
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Wed, 04 May 2011 15:56
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Wed, 04 May 2011 16:57
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Wed, 04 May 2011 18:48
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Ron on Wed, 04 May 2011 22:07
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 08:58
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: gible on Mon, 02 May 2011 04:18
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Mon, 02 May 2011 05:39
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: gible on Mon, 02 May 2011 06:02
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Mon, 02 May 2011 07:30
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 10:21
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Tue, 03 May 2011 08:37
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 10:56
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: gible on Tue, 03 May 2011 04:06
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Tue, 03 May 2011 07:44
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: gible on Tue, 03 May 2011 09:07
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: iztok on Tue, 03 May 2011 09:08
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Tue, 03 May 2011 12:11
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Mon, 02 May 2011 09:33
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 10:31
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Ron on Mon, 02 May 2011 11:14
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: BlueTurbit on Mon, 02 May 2011 13:10
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 14:44
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Ron on Mon, 02 May 2011 11:34
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 11:43
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Mon, 02 May 2011 11:41
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Mon, 02 May 2011 13:14
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 14:43
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Ron on Tue, 03 May 2011 10:35
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Tue, 03 May 2011 12:16
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Tue, 03 May 2011 18:56
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Wed, 04 May 2011 10:41
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Wed, 04 May 2011 10:16
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Wed, 04 May 2011 12:50
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Wed, 04 May 2011 13:30
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Wed, 04 May 2011 13:32
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Wed, 04 May 2011 16:35
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Wed, 04 May 2011 17:45
		CA knowledge is an exploit? (was -Re: Mac is a cheater) By: vonKreedon on Wed, 04 May 2011 18:19
		Re: CA knowledge is an exploit? (was -Re: Mac is a cheater) By: nmid on Wed, 04 May 2011 18:34
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Wed, 04 May 2011 19:12
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Thu, 05 May 2011 08:11
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Wed, 04 May 2011 21:24
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Wed, 04 May 2011 21:37
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 08:55
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Thu, 05 May 2011 08:58
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 09:14
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Thu, 05 May 2011 10:14
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 11:49
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: BlueTurbit on Thu, 05 May 2011 15:20
		Mac broke some rules By: neilhoward on Thu, 05 May 2011 15:59
		Re: Mac broke some rules By: Centaurian on Thu, 05 May 2011 18:07
		Re: Mac broke some rules By: neilhoward on Thu, 05 May 2011 21:54
		Re: Mac broke some rules By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 22:19
		Re: Mac broke some rules By: nmid on Thu, 05 May 2011 23:40
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 22:16
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Thu, 05 May 2011 21:13
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 22:25
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Thu, 05 May 2011 23:44
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Fri, 06 May 2011 00:53
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Fri, 06 May 2011 11:25
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Wed, 04 May 2011 22:54
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: gible on Thu, 05 May 2011 00:37
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 09:02
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: gible on Thu, 05 May 2011 16:51
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 09:01
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Anonymous Coward on Thu, 05 May 2011 10:01
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 10:52
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Fri, 06 May 2011 01:01
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Fri, 06 May 2011 01:11
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: gible on Fri, 06 May 2011 04:29
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: neilhoward on Fri, 06 May 2011 04:37
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Fri, 06 May 2011 01:24
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Fri, 06 May 2011 11:47
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Fri, 06 May 2011 11:48
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Fri, 06 May 2011 12:33
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Fri, 06 May 2011 11:50
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Fri, 06 May 2011 13:20
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: BlueTurbit on Fri, 06 May 2011 13:59
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Ron on Fri, 06 May 2011 14:44

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