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Re: Mac is a cheater

Wed, 04 May 2011 15:56

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nmid wrote on Wed, 04 May 2011 17:14

I doubt size7 would have made a difference either.

Sorry, that was just the attention-getter, aimed at those with poor eyesight or asleep.

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1. Pop-dropped by mistake? AND
2. caught the MT by mistake???

I don't care how many things he did, when or why. Breaking in-game rules is just breaking in-game rules.

Show me the game files (m, h, x, xy, hst, r#, exe, dll, hlp) that he hacked. Show me the privileged info he unlawfully gained thru any trick. Tell me what tools he used to do it. Tell me which of the long list of known game-cheats he used. Show me the new cheat he found. How he destroyed the game for everybody else. Or. He. Didn't. Cheat. Whip

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If a host pulls me up for one infraction (pop-drop), which might have been a genuine mistake, I'll be careful of not doing another one.

And if then you're labelled as a cheater and other hosts or players genuinely believe that you cheated, you risk being banned from all games forever, your reputation destroyed, and your chances to ever playing again (at least here) nil. It would never again matter how careful you got. Shocked

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Catching a MT is a big thing, which I find very very VERY hard to believe was an oversight or simply a hurried turn.

Not as big as what Micha did. Not as big as overloading the battleboard, risking the whole game crashing in the process. Not nearly as game-breaking as purposely benefiting from the N-S minefield immunity, the freepop hack, uploading minerals to an enemy fleet with no cargo holds, or running more races than allowed.

Never as big as true cheating! Whip

True cheats can't be done by mistake, in a hurry or for any benign intent. The difference is clear, and it's there for very good reasons, perhaps even more because of the punishment than of the fault itself.

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I have no ill-will against Mac, but all he had to do was apologise and the whole thing would have died down.

I'd say, based on historical data, that apologising is largely optional once justice has been served. But when will he get apologies for his almost getting his reputation destroyed on a whim for a trivial offense??? Whip

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I see not one post from him,

Carelessness? Or perhaps because no-one in their right non-paranoid mind would imagine the depths of filth he's been dragged to because of something that was fixed almost as soon as it was discovered?

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but instead other people defending him. (based on their possible? past dealings with him and not 1st hand experience of these 2 instances).

Nope. Based on my own sense of justice, and of stopping a great deal of damage stemming from a seemingly innocent accusation.

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when you reply to this post, do answer ALL my points.

I believe I have. If not, please re-ask. Deal

Cheers, ...

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So many Stars, so few Missiles!

In space no one can hear you scheme! Deal

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		Mac is (almost) a cheater By: neilhoward on Wed, 27 April 2011 15:43
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Anonymous Coward on Wed, 27 April 2011 16:15
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: neilhoward on Wed, 27 April 2011 23:42
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Thu, 28 April 2011 12:27
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Fri, 29 April 2011 09:10
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: neilhoward on Fri, 29 April 2011 19:18
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Fri, 29 April 2011 22:42
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Orange on Thu, 28 April 2011 13:39
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Wed, 27 April 2011 16:24
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Thu, 28 April 2011 15:34
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: BlueTurbit on Thu, 28 April 2011 16:00
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Orange on Thu, 28 April 2011 16:22
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Thu, 28 April 2011 20:02
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Thu, 28 April 2011 20:48
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Fri, 29 April 2011 00:43
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Fri, 29 April 2011 10:32
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Fri, 29 April 2011 21:31
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Fri, 29 April 2011 22:26
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: neilhoward on Sat, 30 April 2011 02:20
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Sat, 30 April 2011 07:22
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Sat, 30 April 2011 14:25
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Sat, 30 April 2011 18:25
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Sat, 30 April 2011 20:59
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Sun, 01 May 2011 18:53
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Sun, 01 May 2011 20:19
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Sun, 01 May 2011 23:25
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Mon, 02 May 2011 00:35
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 10:05
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Fri, 29 April 2011 00:39
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Fri, 29 April 2011 07:17
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Fri, 29 April 2011 10:23
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Fri, 29 April 2011 18:18
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Fri, 29 April 2011 14:11
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Fri, 29 April 2011 15:30
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Fri, 29 April 2011 17:58
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Mon, 02 May 2011 00:52
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 10:11
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Sun, 01 May 2011 20:13
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Sun, 01 May 2011 23:22
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Mon, 02 May 2011 01:31
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Mon, 02 May 2011 02:34
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 10:18
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Mon, 02 May 2011 10:56
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 11:07
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Mon, 02 May 2011 12:51
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 14:41
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Tue, 03 May 2011 11:52
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Tue, 03 May 2011 13:17
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Tue, 03 May 2011 14:15
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Tue, 03 May 2011 18:19
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Tue, 03 May 2011 18:27
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: ManicLurch on Tue, 03 May 2011 18:48
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Tue, 03 May 2011 18:58
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: ManicLurch on Tue, 03 May 2011 19:17
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Tue, 03 May 2011 19:21
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: mlaub on Wed, 04 May 2011 09:38
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Wed, 04 May 2011 10:44
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Wed, 04 May 2011 10:54
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Wed, 04 May 2011 11:14
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Wed, 04 May 2011 15:56
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Wed, 04 May 2011 16:57
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Wed, 04 May 2011 18:48
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Ron on Wed, 04 May 2011 22:07
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 08:58
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: gible on Mon, 02 May 2011 04:18
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Mon, 02 May 2011 05:39
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: gible on Mon, 02 May 2011 06:02
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Mon, 02 May 2011 07:30
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 10:21
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Tue, 03 May 2011 08:37
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 10:56
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: gible on Tue, 03 May 2011 04:06
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Tue, 03 May 2011 07:44
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: gible on Tue, 03 May 2011 09:07
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: iztok on Tue, 03 May 2011 09:08
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Tue, 03 May 2011 12:11
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Mon, 02 May 2011 09:33
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 10:31
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Ron on Mon, 02 May 2011 11:14
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: BlueTurbit on Mon, 02 May 2011 13:10
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 14:44
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Ron on Mon, 02 May 2011 11:34
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 11:43
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Mon, 02 May 2011 11:41
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Mon, 02 May 2011 13:14
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Mon, 02 May 2011 14:43
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Ron on Tue, 03 May 2011 10:35
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Tue, 03 May 2011 12:16
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Tue, 03 May 2011 18:56
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Wed, 04 May 2011 10:41
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Wed, 04 May 2011 10:16
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Wed, 04 May 2011 12:50
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Wed, 04 May 2011 13:30
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Wed, 04 May 2011 13:32
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Wed, 04 May 2011 16:35
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Wed, 04 May 2011 17:45
		CA knowledge is an exploit? (was -Re: Mac is a cheater) By: vonKreedon on Wed, 04 May 2011 18:19
		Re: CA knowledge is an exploit? (was -Re: Mac is a cheater) By: nmid on Wed, 04 May 2011 18:34
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Wed, 04 May 2011 19:12
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Centaurian on Thu, 05 May 2011 08:11
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Wed, 04 May 2011 21:24
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Wed, 04 May 2011 21:37
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 08:55
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Thu, 05 May 2011 08:58
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 09:14
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Thu, 05 May 2011 10:14
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 11:49
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: BlueTurbit on Thu, 05 May 2011 15:20
		Mac broke some rules By: neilhoward on Thu, 05 May 2011 15:59
		Re: Mac broke some rules By: Centaurian on Thu, 05 May 2011 18:07
		Re: Mac broke some rules By: neilhoward on Thu, 05 May 2011 21:54
		Re: Mac broke some rules By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 22:19
		Re: Mac broke some rules By: nmid on Thu, 05 May 2011 23:40
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 22:16
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Thu, 05 May 2011 21:13
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 22:25
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Thu, 05 May 2011 23:44
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Fri, 06 May 2011 00:53
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Fri, 06 May 2011 11:25
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Wed, 04 May 2011 22:54
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: gible on Thu, 05 May 2011 00:37
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 09:02
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: gible on Thu, 05 May 2011 16:51
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 09:01
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Anonymous Coward on Thu, 05 May 2011 10:01
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Thu, 05 May 2011 10:52
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Fri, 06 May 2011 01:01
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: magic9mushroom on Fri, 06 May 2011 01:11
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: gible on Fri, 06 May 2011 04:29
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: neilhoward on Fri, 06 May 2011 04:37
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Eagle of Fire on Fri, 06 May 2011 01:24
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Fri, 06 May 2011 11:47
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: nmid on Fri, 06 May 2011 11:48
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Fri, 06 May 2011 12:33
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: m.a@stars on Fri, 06 May 2011 11:50
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: slimdrag00n on Fri, 06 May 2011 13:20
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: BlueTurbit on Fri, 06 May 2011 13:59
		Re: Mac is a cheater By: Ron on Fri, 06 May 2011 14:44

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