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Re: Mac is a cheater

Tue, 03 May 2011 11:52

mlaub

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[quote title=m.a@stars wrote on Mon, 02 May 2011 13:41]

mlaub wrote on Mon, 02 May 2011 18:51

You seem to think all rules, by the mere fact of just existing, are good, unavoidable, and fit to purpose. Never mind that no such thing exists in this world, but that seems to be the basic assumption in all your posts. Sherlock

I say that many people, such as game hosts, invent all kinds of rules for all kinds of purposes, for example, a "thematic" game or scenario. More often than not such rules are flawed, full of loopholes, misinterpretations or outright exploits. It is then to be expected that people fail to follow them to the letter, perhaps even to the spirit. Even lawyers and judges acknowledge that. But not you, or so it seems from your "slippery slope" B.S. Rolling Eyes

So what is the alternative? You continue to bash me, and special rules in general, but I see no solutions coming from you. What is the fix? No rules?

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You counter that our duty as players is asking the rules-makers about the intent and/or boundaries of their rules. And in the next post you scoff me for doing just that, insult me, and order me to stay away from any games you host. That would be only one of the inconsistencies on your part, and I pity the players that try to abide by the rules of such an inconsistent ruler. Shocked

I wasn't discussing a game situation, just a nochaff rule. I provided one example. If you are putting forth a counter example, and expect me to respond as a host, you need to be a clearer. Just a question mark at the end of your remark was not enough. It looked like an accusation and judgement about how I would respond, and it still does.

Also, "order"? Really? When was the last time an order started with "please"? It was a request. I don't withdraw the statement. I would if we can get back to civility.

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The fact that some games with special rules have been successful doesn't imply that all of them will be, and many in fact aren't. One of the hallmarks of failure? Players bending or breaking those rules to their advantage. Another? Hosts failing to enforce good behavior. How to fix the problem? Certainly not by calling everyone who bends a rule or even asks for clarification a "cheater". Shame

I really dont see your point here. Many games that don't have special rules fail.

Instead of rehashing how special rules are bad, perhaps set your mind at a solution. I certainly like to see a simpler solution.

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Where did I do that? Why are you so upset that not everyone thinks the same as you? What makes you think your opinion is the only one that matters??????????

Your statement above is very ironic too me.

-Matt

Global Warming - A climatic change eagerly awaited by most Minnesotans.

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