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| Dogthinkers wrote on Wed, 16 June 2010 22:50 |
... went out with a fizzle!
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Went out in a fizzle? Your race was an SS, and your main opponent was a SD, errr... a IS....errr....what! your opponent was a WM? and you say the game went out with a fizzle because you sat and built factories? LOL.
Well, from the Xeelee perspective, this game was a real nut cracker. I had a really poor planet draw. The first 4 planets scouted were red to me. Shadows secondary was <150ly away, and I later learned that 2 HW's and another secondary was close. On top of that, the mins on my green planets were pathetic. Several had <20% starting metal.
I started SW of the middle, not close enough to have an edge. Lyrans to my South, Dustmites to my West, Protos to my East Griffin SE, Cryptic to my NE, and Shadow to my NW. The Mob above the Cryptic. I didn't know it then, but the starting positions were disproportionately tight in the SW quadrant, and pretty sparse in the NW.
So, my start was pretty bad. The worst by far in the Glacier series. However, that wasn't the killer. What killed me was the MT's. Every time I thought I might get a leg up in tech, an MT came through just north of me. If I ever host another Glacier, it will not have random events. The MT's in this game were much to unbalancing. Much more so than the other Glaciers. Once again, I'd love to rewrite the game, and add check boxes to everything. "Would you like the MT to give out tech? NO!".
A couple more thoughts.
I knew the Shadow was gunning for me when he kept making excuses to get in a war with me. The clincher was his insistence that the Cryptic HW (Kan) was his, after the Cryptic were defeated. He made no move to grab it, tho. After +10 turns, with me watching the Protos advance adjacent to it, and start sending ships to Kan, I had to do something. So I grabbed it before the Protos could. The Shadow instantly declared war, and gave the Protos the Cryptic HW while he attacked me. I knew I was doomed already, but that was the clincher. Obviously the Shadow wanted me dead more than anything else.
I knew I wasn't gonna last without help of some sort, so I never considered attacking the Lyrans. He was already getting mauled by the Griffin and Protos, and it would have just made my position worse to fight the Lyrans.
Also, it was apparent that the Dust Mites player was sort of inexperienced, so I decided not to attack him. I really didn't want to screw up his game, knowing it wouldn't help me much. Although that changed very quickly, after the Shadow threw him to the wolves (talking him into attacking me, then attacking him after I started taking his worlds). I am betting he won't trust the Shadow again. Cut throat indeed. By far the best backstab of the game! Kudos to the Shadow! Much better than then the backstab to the Cryptic. 
| DenHam wrote on Fri, 18 June 2010 21:08 |
Mob Sob Story
(How I blew it)
I delay as much as possible and then choose to attack the Shadow. It was a mistake but I don’t believe that I had enough forces to make much of a difference with the score. Besides, I didn’t know who to believe. I was number 1 at that point.
Denny
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My last play of the game was snubbed by the Mob. This was right after the Protos had taken a few of my worlds, and I killed their fleet at Hal IIRC (I don't think anyone realized I did that). I wasn't concerned with the planet losses, as it exposed the Protos to more enemies fixated on thinking he was too powerful, and gave me the pop to restart my industry on mineral rich Dustmite planets! Woot!
This happened around 2500, while I was mowing through the Dustmites. I had calculated that I could hold off the Griffin and Protos, while I waged war with the Shadow, if the Mob would just attack the Shadow all out from the other side. From 2 angles it stood about a 80% chance of working by my thoughts. The Chatter would have been stuck going it alone against the Protos (an easy win for the Chatter, but he would be overly cautious). Doubtful the Chatter would have attacked the Mob, leaving the Protos to grow, not realizing that the Protos were rethinking his attack strategies.
I didn't push Denny hard for a Shadow campaign, as I was pretty sure he wouldn't go for it. I am certainly surprised he didn't, after reading his gripes about the Shadow...All that Shadow territory would have given him a real boost, and the game IMO.
From the moment the Mob said no, I was pretty sure the Chatter would win.
-Matt
P.S. Good Game! See you guys in another life.
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