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What might be fixed in a "new" clone game?

Mon, 28 July 2008 01:31

stranger

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Location: Oregon, USA

I was poking around with Nova, and a couple of the other Stars! clones and clone-toolsets.

Now I'm a competent programmer, but my real job is being a Game Designer. And as such, simply copying Stars! in a 1:1 fashion isn't exactly what I'm looking for...

I want to know if there is any consensus on what things might be "fixed" in a new Stars! clone, if any? For example:

* Change the race wizard cost of RS, UR, TT.
* Change BET such that it doesn't force lvl 26 items to remain double cost forever?
* Adjust the game to change the way that chaff works?

Besides Stars! my other 4x poison of choice is the Space Empires series - currently at 5. But SEV was pretty unbalanced when it was released, but a few folks got together and put together a "Balance Mod" for the game, which changes some tech items, build costs, and the like. It's probably used by 80% of the SEV games played, so it's basically the default rulset for PBEM.

I would love to see something similar done for Stars!

Has this topic come through much yet? I've seen a few posts shot down with a comment like "Since nobody is going to change it, we should just accept this."

Ideally, a new clone would include data-driven parameters, such that it would be easy to adjust these things. Then we'd need an army of veteran Stars! players to beta-test each rule tweak. Would the community implode? Who can say?

I have much more than a passing interest in this.

--Mr. Strange

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		What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: stranger on Mon, 28 July 2008 01:31
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: Adacore on Mon, 28 July 2008 09:12
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: Effluviant Walrus on Mon, 28 July 2008 11:24
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: LEit on Mon, 28 July 2008 12:06
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: Effluviant Walrus on Mon, 28 July 2008 17:43
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: LEit on Mon, 28 July 2008 17:56
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: m.a@stars on Mon, 28 July 2008 14:29
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: stranger on Mon, 28 July 2008 19:18
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: Effluviant Walrus on Mon, 28 July 2008 20:47
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: Adacore on Mon, 28 July 2008 22:30
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: stranger on Mon, 28 July 2008 23:42
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: m.a@stars on Mon, 28 July 2008 14:18
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: Coyote on Mon, 04 August 2008 18:51
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: stranger on Tue, 05 August 2008 04:55
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: m.a@stars on Wed, 06 August 2008 04:26
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: Downsider on Mon, 25 August 2008 10:14
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: Adacore on Wed, 06 August 2008 04:32
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: m.a@stars on Wed, 06 August 2008 05:03
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: Coyote on Mon, 18 August 2008 17:00
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: stranger on Fri, 22 August 2008 15:12
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: m.a@stars on Fri, 22 August 2008 19:58
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: Sulpholobus on Mon, 25 August 2008 02:21
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: johng316 on Tue, 25 November 2008 14:57
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: Coyote on Tue, 25 November 2008 19:30
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: craebild on Thu, 27 November 2008 02:30
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: Coyote on Sun, 24 August 2008 21:31
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: Coyote on Tue, 02 December 2008 00:45
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: Coyote on Wed, 03 December 2008 20:35
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: redvidar on Wed, 17 December 2008 16:25
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: m.a@stars on Fri, 19 December 2008 13:43
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: Coyote on Tue, 02 December 2008 01:11
		Re: What might be fixed in a "new" clone game? By: MRing on Fri, 19 December 2008 01:54

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