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Re: Micromanagement Tools (was Fledgling Admirals 2: EoG Comments)

Mon, 12 July 2010 16:38

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Captain Maim wrote on Mon, 12 July 2010 15:52

.hst files contain all the data for everything everywhere.

.hst files aren't available if you play on AutoHost, so that isn't good enough.

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The ships you see are in the M file, the planets you saw are in the H file.

But what about the ships and planets you don't see? The information is there in the files of the other players, but not available in a single file.

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It wouldn't be nice to sync filtering between players, they need to be independant. And filter is done by message type anyway. Filtering may be stored in the H file. I think.

Ah, you've missed the point. This would be for viewing a game after the game has ended. Setting up the same filtering for all players would mean you don't have to do it manually for each one in turn.

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You already can do that, I made a utility to save all M, X and H and HST and XY files per year. It reads the year automatically and makes a directory by the name of the year and saves it there. And another utility that auto enters passwords that you write to a list. You then just drag and drop the M file onto the program and it reads the player number from the file name and enters the approrate password. So you can easily watch things from allied perspectives.

Again, there is no access to .hst files if you play on AutoHost, and loading in the files of another player will not give you all the information - only their information. For instance, I would find it interesting to be able to see what was actually at the enemy system when the player whose turn I am viewing was preparing their attack. Looking at their typical turn files just shows me what they saw there, which could be entirely incorrect.

What I'm talking about would be like an improved version of X-borders, using Stars! as the viewer. You would lose out on the 'sphere of influence' feature, in return for being able to see ships and watch battles.

Edit: I assume the battles could not be combined, so that you would only be able to view battles that the viewpoint player participated in.

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		Micromanagement Tools (was Fledgling Admirals 2: EoG Comments) By: Dolphin on Fri, 02 November 2007 06:01
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		Re: Micromanagement Tools (was Fledgling Admirals 2: EoG Comments) By: m.a@stars on Fri, 02 November 2007 13:37
		Re: Micromanagement Tools (was Fledgling Admirals 2: EoG Comments) By: Dolphin on Sat, 03 November 2007 16:46
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		Re: Micromanagement Tools (was Fledgling Admirals 2: EoG Comments) By: m.a@stars on Mon, 05 November 2007 02:51
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		Re: Micromanagement Tools (was Fledgling Admirals 2: EoG Comments) By: vonKreedon on Tue, 06 November 2007 10:03
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		Re: Micromanagement Tools (was Fledgling Admirals 2: EoG Comments) By: Soobie on Wed, 07 November 2007 04:11
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		Re: Micromanagement Tools (was Fledgling Admirals 2: EoG Comments) By: m.a@stars on Mon, 05 November 2007 02:43
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		Re: Micromanagement Tools (was Fledgling Admirals 2: EoG Comments) By: Captain Maim on Sun, 25 November 2007 04:47
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		Re: Micromanagement Tools (was Fledgling Admirals 2: EoG Comments) By: Captain Maim on Sun, 25 November 2007 19:21
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		Re: Micromanagement Tools (was Fledgling Admirals 2: EoG Comments) By: Captain Maim on Mon, 26 November 2007 00:35
		Re: Micromanagement Tools (was Fledgling Admirals 2: EoG Comments) By: Micha on Mon, 26 November 2007 06:07
		Re: Micromanagement Tools (was Fledgling Admirals 2: EoG Comments) By: m.a@stars on Mon, 26 November 2007 11:45
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		Re: Micromanagement Tools (was Fledgling Admirals 2: EoG Comments) By: Captain Maim on Thu, 13 December 2007 22:00
		Re: Micromanagement Tools (was Fledgling Admirals 2: EoG Comments) By: m.a@stars on Mon, 17 December 2007 09:48
		Re: Micromanagement Tools (was Fledgling Admirals 2: EoG Comments) By: Captain Maim on Tue, 18 December 2007 02:26
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		Re: Micromanagement Tools (was Fledgling Admirals 2: EoG Comments) By: XyliGUN on Wed, 07 July 2010 10:50
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		Re: Micromanagement Tools (was Fledgling Admirals 2: EoG Comments) By: Captain Maim on Wed, 07 July 2010 18:57
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		Re: Micromanagement Tools (was Fledgling Admirals 2: EoG Comments) By: m.a@stars on Fri, 09 July 2010 13:33
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