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Kotk wrote on Tue, 01 July 2003 04:59 |
But you have same RW.
As others pointed out the cost of immunity depends on other settings. Most importantly it depends what you have there as other hab settings before you change it to immunity.
Yes one can say immune gravity costs 6000: He first make race with gravity most narrow most right and temperature and radiation immune with 20% growth. Now he click gravity immune too and bang, there it go 6025 points.
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The cost for anything in the Race Wizard is always the difference between what it was before you click on it and what it is after you click on it at that point in time. Immunity changes in cost depending on other variables, just as do LRTs when several have already been selected and you select say a fifth or sixth LRT, or when selecting several techs at a cheap cost. In each case there comes a point when the price increase is too high to be affordable.
Quote: | The standard Humanoid with PRT changed to CA is nothing near what people commonly use as race.
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No, it just gives you a starting point of zero when trying to determine what a series of selections might end up costing.
As Zoid did: IFE + NRSE + gravity immunity +75 propulsion = -547.
With any starting number other than zero you have to add or subtract the difference. So CA is a quick way to start at zero when checking numbers only.
Quote: | So what i first took was a 1 in 4 hab 18% growth HP without immunity that i would play in game.
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HP? Looks more like HG to me?
Quote: | I rarely use wider hab for any race, so i thought it is good starting point. Then i shifted the habs around to make gravity all wide still having 0 points left over.
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Why? Are you going to use all wide?
Quote: | It was because all-wide gravity is the closest thing available to gravity immunity. After that i only checked what the immunity itself really costs to me.
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If it makes you feel better then do it. You still end up with the same points: click on immunity first, or go all wide and then click on immunity. And if you end up with the same total, that makes the cost the same.
Quote: | I got that it costs 220 points. So i assume that with any real race it costs about 220 points not 500 or 6000.
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Not in my RW. If I have 18% 1 in 4 hab with zero points and click on g immunity I end up with -673. IF I set to max wide g and then click on immunity I end up with -673. Even the difference between max wide and immune g is not 220. So post your race settings to show how you get 220?
Again the bottom line is you have to end with a points number that is not negative to create a valid race. The cost of any immunity is relative to the difference before you click and after you click on immunity. In most cases this will be several hundred point, usually near 500 or so, and higher with increased hab settings above 15% default and if it is a second or third immunity which also increases the price quite a bit.
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Ramscoops, which one to use?
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hey
By: Ron on Fri, 07 March 2003 12:00
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Re: Ramscoops, which one to use?
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