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| Re: Proposed IA/VA NAP |
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| Altruist wrote on Tue, 24 April 2007 00:53 |
I would rather keep the East out.
We have already agreed on a NAP with borders and everything since several years, we only need to sign it and are waiting for the West. No need at all to restart the discussion about the East-NAP by changing a single word.
Thus I would suggest, just do it for the West.
Personally I would had jumped for the West-NAP right after the Vorlon message. Just to anger Earth. I doubt that continued discussion will change your NAP-conditions to the better, rather to the worse.
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OK, I just thought it would be neater if there was a single agreement.
I am not prepared to give up 6 planets, especially including one good green + 4 yellows. 2 yellows + a red is bad enough.
If this agreement is to be for the west only then how about this:
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IA (west) & VA NAP/Border Agreement
If you have any additional suggestions please feel free. Note that the Eastern agreement, which is understood to be already agreed, operates concurrently with this one. The agreements will begin & end (should it do so) concurrently.
Parties:
VA: Vorlon, Earth, Hyak, Ipsha
IA: Gaim, Llort
NAP
Correct us if we’re wrong but, from recent statements, the VA wishes to take things carefully. With that in mind we suggest a simple floating NAP with a 5-year exit clause. By that we mean that the NAP is continuous but either side can activate the exit clause at any time. Should such activation be announced then the NAP continues for 5 more years & is then cancelled. For example, if the VA activates the exit clause in 2490 then the NAP ceases in 2495 (first attack orders possible in 2495, first possible battles appear in 2496 windows).
Border Agreement
Western Border: Canterbury-Smorgasbord-Fizbin-Little Brother. All border planets are VA owned.
South-North Corridor: South of Little Brother the area is exclusively VA. North of Little Bother is an intersettlement area.
Exceptions
1. Any planet already colonised remains in current ownership except as in (4) below. If planet swaps are possible then they can be discussed but both sides must be agreeable on a case by case basis.
2. Hollywood, Red Ball. The IA will not impede the VA in their endeavours but they must remain IA planets.
3. Shadow planets are considered neither VA, nor IA territory regardless of where they are.
4. the Llort will evacuate Nawk, Zucchini & Canterbury.
5. Pisces will cease to be a gate planet. The Gate Keeper will be asked to evacuate.
Armed Fleets
These may be placed at our respective planets but should otherwise remain 101ly from VA planets in the case of IA fleets & IA planets in the case of VA fleets except if given permission to do otherwise.
There is a general exception in the South-North Corridor & in the area north of the Fizbin-Little Brother border area. Armed fleets may move freely in that area so that Shadow objectives can be pursued.
Armed VA fleets may cross the border for the purpose of pursuing Drakh planet objectives but may not activate the NAP exit clause while armed fleets are within IA borders for that purpose.
Minefields
The IA will not lay minefields in the South-North Corridor or at Stove Top or Yank while the NAP is active. This clause is immediately cancelled if the exit clause is activated.
Abel
IA scouts will remain at least 150ly from Abel.
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Talking to the Elders - Vorlon
By: Skaffen on Thu, 22 March 2007 01:06 |
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Re: Talking to the Elders - Vorlon
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Re: Talking to the Elders - Vorlon
By: Skaffen on Tue, 27 March 2007 13:55 |
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Vorlon - SPOOmun Complat - Pak'ma'ra communication
By: Altruist on Tue, 27 March 2007 14:04 |
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Re: Vorlon - SPOOmun Complat - Pak'ma'ra communication
By: Micha on Tue, 27 March 2007 18:05 |
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NAP with Vorlons?
By: Altruist on Thu, 29 March 2007 15:40 |
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Re: Vorlon - SPOOmun Complat - Pak'ma'ra communication
By: Skaffen on Thu, 29 March 2007 15:45 |
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Re: Vorlon - SPOOmun Complat - Pak'ma'ra communication
By: Altruist on Thu, 29 March 2007 18:09 |
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Re: Talking to the Elders - Vorlon
By: Micha on Tue, 27 March 2007 16:06 |
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2460: SPOOmun Complat to Vorlons
By: Altruist on Fri, 30 March 2007 14:39 |
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Re: 2460: SPOOmun Complat to Vorlons
By: Micha on Sun, 01 April 2007 07:59 |
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Re: 2460: SPOOmun Complat to Vorlons
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NAP with Vorlons
By: Altruist on Mon, 02 April 2007 15:11 |
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First answere from Vorlons about NAP
By: Altruist on Thu, 05 April 2007 19:11 |
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Earth/Llort NAP discussions
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Re: Earth/Llort NAP discussions
By: Altruist on Thu, 12 April 2007 18:38 |
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2465: Hyak - Spoo communication
By: Altruist on Mon, 16 April 2007 09:54 |
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2465: Vorlons to IA
By: Altruist on Tue, 17 April 2007 12:48 |
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2465: special message from Vorlons to Pak/Spoo
By: Altruist on Tue, 17 April 2007 12:55 |
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2465: email communciation between Hyak and Spoo
By: Altruist on Wed, 18 April 2007 21:18 |
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IA/VA NAP/Border Agreement
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Re: IA/VA NAP/Border Agreement
By: Altruist on Thu, 19 April 2007 07:57 |
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Re: IA/VA NAP/Border Agreement
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2466: NAP
By: Altruist on Thu, 19 April 2007 13:26 |
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Re: 2466: NAP
By: Altruist on Thu, 19 April 2007 14:23 |
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Vorlon suggestion for the West
By: Altruist on Thu, 19 April 2007 20:47 |
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Re: Vorlon suggestion for the West
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Proposed IA/VA NAP
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Re: Proposed IA/VA NAP
By: Altruist on Tue, 24 April 2007 00:53 |
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Re: Proposed IA/VA NAP
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Re: Talking to the Elders - Vorlon
By: Micha on Fri, 27 April 2007 09:21 |
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Re: Talking to the Elders - Vorlon
By: Altruist on Fri, 27 April 2007 11:44 |
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Re: Talking to the Elders - Vorlon
By: Micha on Fri, 27 April 2007 16:41 |
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