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Re: Rebuilding Race Traits

Wed, 31 January 2007 00:21

Coyote

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Iconian wrote on Tue, 30 January 2007 09:17

Basically, you can use the cost of the research as a huge factor, one that will effectively restrain a race from certain paths, which will still allow a lot of race design options and such, without overwhelming with liberty or artificially restraining the player.

We can always add a greater selection than 50%/normal/175% to research costs --- perhaps a system of sliders with 7 available levels? Say, 25% cost, 50% cost, 75% cost, 100% cost, 150% cost, 250% cost, 400% cost.

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But it's not important at the moment. What is important I think is to get an working game up.

But yes, I think the important thing is that we get a running clone, ASAP. Once the first is done we can add more features . . .

Yep, getting a bare-bones useable game is most important, everything else can be added in later.

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Regarding heroes, I think it could definitely work. Before worrying about heroes though I'd like to see every ship (or ship captain or crew) given a specific experience rating.

While that would be fun in a game like Homeworld, it sounds like an absolutely awful idea for Stars! - trying to gain and keep track of experience for each individual ship would be a lot of additional micromanagement, and how exactly would you handle ship stacking with ships of the same design but different experience?

Stars! ships are easy come, easy go. If you had to put a huge investment into one individual ship that you could expect to survive for and be effective for 20+ turns, then maybe it'd make more sense, but when you have 500 battleships throwing themselves against 300 dreadnoughts the importance and relevance of one individual ship having some bonus from experience is essentially nil.

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While reading about Supernova the other day, I found that you could hire specific spies with abilities that would grow throughout the game. How about being able to assign specific ship captains with different abilities? One could be a charismatic general and as such would bring a small (5 or 10%) increase in the strength of all ships merged with his ship. Another would be an exceptional tactician that would bring a big (50, 75%) increase in a single ship's strength.

If we implement game characters such as spies or admirals or planet leaders, this could be doable, sure. But it'd be quite a job to do effecively - let's wait until we have a balanced completed game first, release it, and then worry about his for a new version. This is a large qualitative change and should be done very carefully.

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		Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Sun, 28 January 2007 00:51
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: sirgwain on Sun, 28 January 2007 12:07
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: gible on Sun, 28 January 2007 16:48
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Iconian on Sun, 28 January 2007 17:10
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Sun, 28 January 2007 21:55
		Re: Rebuilding ... Econ Page Too By: Kotk on Mon, 29 January 2007 03:18
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Mon, 29 January 2007 08:23
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Iconian on Mon, 29 January 2007 18:31
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Mon, 29 January 2007 21:21
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: gible on Tue, 30 January 2007 00:53
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Tue, 30 January 2007 05:06
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Kotk on Tue, 30 January 2007 08:39
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Tue, 30 January 2007 12:13
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: m.a@stars on Tue, 30 January 2007 04:35
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Iconian on Tue, 30 January 2007 12:17
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Tue, 30 January 2007 12:34
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Wed, 31 January 2007 01:07
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Wed, 31 January 2007 00:21
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Wed, 31 January 2007 06:30
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Wed, 31 January 2007 10:16
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Wed, 31 January 2007 12:13
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Wed, 31 January 2007 12:23
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Wed, 31 January 2007 12:29
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Wed, 31 January 2007 12:32
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Wed, 31 January 2007 12:34
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Wed, 31 January 2007 13:22
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Wed, 31 January 2007 13:31
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Wed, 31 January 2007 13:40
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Wed, 31 January 2007 13:43
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Wed, 31 January 2007 13:46
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Wed, 31 January 2007 13:50
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Wed, 31 January 2007 13:53
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Wed, 31 January 2007 13:55
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Wed, 31 January 2007 14:35
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Wed, 31 January 2007 15:06
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Thu, 01 February 2007 07:14
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: m.a@stars on Thu, 01 February 2007 14:09
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Thu, 01 February 2007 14:36
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: m.a@stars on Thu, 01 February 2007 23:01
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Thu, 01 February 2007 23:22
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Fri, 02 February 2007 12:46
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		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: m.a@stars on Fri, 02 February 2007 16:55
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Fri, 02 February 2007 16:57
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Fri, 02 February 2007 17:07
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Fri, 02 February 2007 17:27
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: m.a@stars on Fri, 02 February 2007 20:31
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: m.a@stars on Fri, 02 February 2007 13:51
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Wed, 31 January 2007 12:21
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Iconian on Thu, 01 February 2007 00:26
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Thu, 01 February 2007 06:25
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: m.a@stars on Fri, 02 February 2007 14:01
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Fri, 02 February 2007 22:43
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: gible on Fri, 02 February 2007 23:38
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Sat, 03 February 2007 00:58
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Sat, 03 February 2007 03:41
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Sat, 03 February 2007 08:47
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Sat, 03 February 2007 08:53
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Sat, 03 February 2007 08:55
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Sat, 03 February 2007 09:00
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Sun, 04 February 2007 17:02
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: m.a@stars on Sun, 04 February 2007 20:22
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Mon, 05 February 2007 12:29
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: m.a@stars on Mon, 05 February 2007 14:20
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Mon, 05 February 2007 16:56
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Sat, 24 February 2007 05:19
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Neo the White on Fri, 09 March 2007 14:39
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Kelzar on Tue, 05 June 2007 13:01
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: goober on Tue, 05 June 2007 16:31
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: mazda on Tue, 05 June 2007 17:48
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Kelzar on Tue, 05 June 2007 22:45
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: mazda on Wed, 06 June 2007 05:24
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: goober on Wed, 06 June 2007 05:38
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Kotk on Wed, 06 June 2007 06:18
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: m.a@stars on Wed, 06 June 2007 14:42
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: mazda on Thu, 07 June 2007 03:27
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: jabbawocky on Thu, 07 June 2007 07:55
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Kotk on Thu, 07 June 2007 11:25
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Kelzar on Thu, 07 June 2007 12:17
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: m.a@stars on Thu, 07 June 2007 13:10
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: m.a@stars on Thu, 07 June 2007 12:32
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: jabbawocky on Fri, 08 June 2007 04:22
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Dogthinkers on Tue, 03 July 2007 02:10
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: ForceUser on Tue, 03 July 2007 10:19
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Iconian on Thu, 07 June 2007 14:08
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Wed, 18 July 2007 22:45
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Dogthinkers on Thu, 19 July 2007 00:54
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: BunBun vonWhiskers on Thu, 13 September 2007 12:25
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Thu, 13 September 2007 19:50
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: m.a@stars on Fri, 14 September 2007 09:38
		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: Coyote on Fri, 14 September 2007 20:03
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		Re: Rebuilding Race Traits By: BunBun vonWhiskers on Tue, 25 September 2007 10:33
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