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Re: Don't Let the Stars Fade Away Tue, 22 May 2007 04:42 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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hereticbloodline wrote on Mon, 21 May 2007 20:54

Well, Coyote essentially nailed it. Stars! is fine as it is; its very purity is its attraction. Those of us trying to expand on the concept can merely add in components that take away from the sense of freedom that Stars! provides and thus appeal to a more specific audience. Perhaps one who prefers to be part of a story rather than conjuring them.


Hm. I'd say there's also a lot of room for just improving (IOW: automating) the things Stars! already does. With AI-style automation always tweakable by the player/emperor of course. Rolling Eyes

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Well, perhaps most of those things would be nice for Scenarios or Mods, while "standard" games could do without them.

Like having two+ games in one: good ole' Stars (with perhaps minor improvements) and this other not-quite-Stars beast. Twisted Evil

Sounds like a worthy "secondary" goal for any "clone" design. Balancing gameplay with all those new things wouldn't be easy, tho. Confused

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And voila, it's not really Stars! any more. I like to think i know about design, and Stars! wrapped up the genre pretty damn well. It all feels a bit futile at times. Ideas are all very well, but so many 4x games fail precisely because they're so brimming with ideas that sound great on paper but don't work well in practice. More is less? Almost makes me wonder if Supernova would've been as popular as Stars! had it ever shipped.



I've wondered about that too. Aside from stunning visuals, I'd say most successful strat games nowadays sport a decent "tweakability" by players themselves, allowing the creation of many Scenarios/Mods/Campaigns where the player community as a whole "votes" for the best and greatest.

I'd very much love to see that happening to the new Stars. Cool



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