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Re: Random Ideas

Sun, 01 October 2006 11:59

Kotk

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Coyote wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 02:02

It worked fine when it was implemented in the older versions of Stars! - but instead of balancing these weapons they were removed outright. Sad. More options generally make for more fun.

Generally you are right ... different abilities are fun. OTOH disabling buggy/weak features is better than leaving them in. As for VCR ... VCR has always looked quite pathetic for interstellar battle and area effect was strange and most odd cheat was that self detonate battle plan.

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Armor is of marginal worth at best even against a pure beam fleet because it slows your ships down and leaves them vulnerable to range advantages.

Correct. Hull armor (beside that on orbitals) is good and cheap and sufficent ... so armor components are pointless elsewhere but on orbitals.
Lets take construction 3:
crobmium = 75dp in 56kT for 6/0/0/13
destroyer = 200dp in 30kT for 15/3/5/35 (8 slots, 280 fuel)
So 3 slabs of crobmium only double DD hulls armor but also double ships cost and raise its weight 7 times. Confused

I actually dont see how proposed EM gun improves that disbalance (between inbuilt armor and armor components) and makes me put crobmium onto DD? I anyway better build 2 armorless DDs. Wink

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This would make chaff obsolete.

Yes, yes. However the whole set: PDW components, PDW tokens + new battle plans & orders + battle plan per each token in fleet ... it all seems lot more work first to implement and later to use compared to chaff. Rolling Eyes

Chaff has been so easy to implement that it is considered allowed cheat and not a feature. Nod

Sure all can be added one day. Nod

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