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Re: Andromeda Strained - Remapped Spiral Galaxy

Thu, 15 December 2005 02:27

iztok

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Hi!

multilis wrote on Mon, 12 December 2005 20:17

Last game I used collodial phasor and sapper DD as WM (battle speed bonus), they were very useful annoying warships that sniped non-warships, fought heavy shielded frigates, mineswept, sapped shields, etc.

In almost every game I've been in had the same dilema: DD sweeper or DD sweeper/light skirmisher. Almost always I came to the same conclusion: cheap sweeper only, with beamer CC as skirmisher.

Reasons: I usually start skirmishing early in the game, with low tech and a small amount of free resources, so warships (especially sweepers) should be cheap: DD, wolverine/crobby shield, 2 bazookas/miniguns, LH-6/FM engine, optional fuel pod. Such a design sweeps well, skirmishes averagely at that timeframe, reasonably cheap. IMO a skirmisher should have better battle speed (an AD-8 engine or DLL-7 and a man-jet) and weapons (colloidal(s) or one sapper). However that doubles its price, and still makes it lose in 1_to_1 combat against the bazooka-only design.

So no wonder you used DDs so well with the WM PRT. Its combat speed bonus and cheaper weapons make it IMO the only PRT that can make cost-effective multipurpose DD warships.
[Edit]Well, the IS with its crobby shield can also make good sweeper&skirmisher FF design, but it's not such a cost-effective one.
BR, Iztok

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