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Re: Andromeda Strained - Remapped Spiral Galaxy

Tue, 06 December 2005 14:12

mlaub

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vonKreedon wrote on Tue, 06 December 2005 12:29

I think that the issue for Chaff is not the design, but the use. If an IS player is fielding a horde of Croby FFs with Yaks, but no missile ships then this is not Chaff.

Soooo untrue. Croby frigates w/Yaks are chaff "and" warship wrapped together, but they are legit. It is much easier, I think, to just draw a line somewhere. Say something like "wolverine shielded or better scout/frigates with Bazookas are not chaff, all else is." Frankly, without set limitations there will always be someone who pushes your interpretation of the rules.

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OTOH, if this horde of FFs is combined with Doomer BBs then that would be Chaff.

No. Frignaugts can hold up against cruisers/BC's because they are lighter, and move last. This means that r1 frignaughts against r2 cruisers, and r2 frignaughts against r3 cruisers can be a good tactic. Remember, IS weapons are 25% more expensive, so using a tactic that utilizes cheaper weapons is "smart" not a cheat. Makes it tough to say "hey, that's chaff!". Plus, they can use smaller 100kt gates with no damage.

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About Chaff sweeping, I think you need a definitive pronouncement on this else you could find someone fielding masses of low cost scouts containing just an engine and using them to crash an opponent's MFs. The scouts would not be traditional or freighter Chaff, but they would be a cheap and quick way to take down MFs.

It's called "Collision Sweeping"... Smile

-Matt

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