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Re: Cheats you like to play?

Sat, 09 November 2002 00:46

Apelord

Master Chief Petty Officer

Messages: 99
Registered: November 2002

Somebody had to let the cat out of the bag...

Here's my simplistic view of cheats:

Three categories:
1) hacks-outside attempts to modify the data (password cracking, running a sample turn as a host and reverting to backups, freepop, 20% tri-immune warmongers, etc.)

2) Code flaws- Exploiting a hole in the code (i.e. minefeild immunities, ship/starbase resource cheats, battle board overload etc.)

3) Code shortcomings- Behaviors that aren't what one would really want to see, but are understood and do not result in lower cost to accomplish something (i.e. rotating starbase designs for multiple packets or gating without detection by nosy IT's, chaffe, chaffe sweeping, splitting fleets, etc.)

My view is #1 and #2 are no-no's, #3 is okay. The test I apply to determine if something is #2 or #3 is: Does this result in 'free resources' or exploit an obvious weakness counter to game design? If yes then #2 if no then #3. One can always argue things like chaffe, rotating starbase designs, etc. but none of those things produce free resources (I.e. stuff costs what it is supposed to) and while the behavior can be argued whether it is a design feature or not, they do not run counter to something obvious (like freeways through minefeilds).

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the other bastard die for his" -George Patton

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		Cheats you like to play? By: FurFuznel on Wed, 06 November 2002 12:25
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: overworked on Wed, 06 November 2002 12:41
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: Coyote on Thu, 07 November 2002 03:29
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: mitchell on Thu, 07 November 2002 16:58
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: Coyote on Fri, 08 November 2002 01:40
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: overworked on Fri, 08 November 2002 08:08
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: mitchell on Fri, 08 November 2002 19:14
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: Ron on Wed, 06 November 2002 15:28
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: BlueTurbit on Fri, 08 November 2002 13:05
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: Coyote on Fri, 08 November 2002 17:06
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: BlueTurbit on Fri, 08 November 2002 20:52
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: Apelord on Sat, 09 November 2002 00:46
		Adding "target list overload" bug [Was: Cheats you like to play?] By: Micha on Sat, 09 November 2002 08:35
		Re: Adding "target list overload" bug [Was: Cheats you like to play?] By: Apelord on Sat, 09 November 2002 11:02
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: McKulz on Sun, 10 November 2002 09:38
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: JamesWD on Mon, 11 November 2002 04:11
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: McKulz on Mon, 11 November 2002 15:54
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: Wayne on Mon, 11 November 2002 19:24
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: McKulz on Tue, 12 November 2002 13:42
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: JamesWD on Wed, 13 November 2002 07:38
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: Apelord on Wed, 13 November 2002 17:47
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: Robert on Thu, 14 November 2002 15:36
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: Coyote on Thu, 14 November 2002 16:47
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: Robert on Thu, 14 November 2002 17:16
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: Robert on Thu, 14 November 2002 17:52
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: ccmaster on Thu, 14 November 2002 18:33
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: Coyote on Thu, 14 November 2002 20:14
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: ccmaster on Thu, 14 November 2002 20:51
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: Robert on Fri, 15 November 2002 03:18
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: Micha on Fri, 15 November 2002 10:26
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: Apelord on Thu, 14 November 2002 20:12
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: UAF commander on Fri, 15 November 2002 03:09
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: BlueTurbit on Fri, 15 November 2002 11:46
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: ccmaster on Fri, 15 November 2002 11:51
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: UAF commander on Fri, 15 November 2002 12:35
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: Bearhard on Fri, 15 November 2002 15:40
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: EDog on Fri, 15 November 2002 15:43
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: FurFuznel on Fri, 15 November 2002 16:14
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: BlueTurbit on Fri, 15 November 2002 16:41
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: Ron on Fri, 15 November 2002 17:43
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: EDog on Sat, 16 November 2002 11:11
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: Wayne on Mon, 18 November 2002 02:16
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: ccmaster on Mon, 18 November 2002 20:44
		Is this a cheat??? By: Robert on Sun, 24 November 2002 17:55
		Re: Is this a cheat??? By: EDog on Mon, 25 November 2002 20:11
		Re: Is this a cheat??? By: Stalwart on Tue, 26 November 2002 13:12
		Re: Is this a cheat??? By: Apelord on Thu, 12 December 2002 23:39
		Re: Is this a cheat??? By: Dogthinkers on Tue, 02 September 2003 00:34
		Re: Is this a cheat??? By: Robert on Tue, 02 September 2003 09:39
		Re: Is this a cheat??? By: Robert on Tue, 02 September 2003 09:40
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: UAF commander on Fri, 15 November 2002 18:22
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: ccmaster on Fri, 15 November 2002 23:41
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: Apelord on Sun, 17 November 2002 13:47
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: Mischief on Sun, 08 December 2002 18:36
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: jeffimix on Sun, 08 December 2002 19:57
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: mitchell on Mon, 09 December 2002 12:32
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: tprescott on Wed, 11 December 2002 22:59
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: BlueTurbit on Wed, 11 December 2002 23:09
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: Robert on Tue, 02 September 2003 09:42
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: Robert on Sat, 25 October 2003 08:05
		Re: Cheats you like to play? By: EDog on Thu, 12 December 2002 20:35

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