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Re: CA Balance

Wed, 14 January 2004 02:29

timmy

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alexdstewart wrote on Tue, 13 January 2004 23:20

I've been thinking...

Economic performance depends almost entirely on pop growth rate.

Nope. Your average HG gets 50% of its econ from factories, the average HP a lot more. The above statement's only true if you're talking about -f races.

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So the logic goes... why not restrict CA PRT to max 15% growth rate? A 15% growth CA will still be formidable (Think HP) but it will not be able to roll over everybody early. (think 15% rate is not NF or HG).

It is much simpler and more reliable to place restrictions on growth rate than to impose such artificial things like LRT's, tech settings etc...

What do yea guys think of that?

It's a good thought I think, and pretty easy to enforce. It would certainly slow down the CA HGs and -Fs, and make them a less dominant force. but I'd expect a 15% CA HP would still be frighteningly powerful in the right hands. I've never played one in real game, only test-bedded ... perhaps someone with more experience can give their thoughts? live almost everywhere, compound 15/7-8/20+ facs ... 15% GR would be more than liveable IMO.

At some point obviously a low enough GR would cripple, or at least severely slow, even the most clever of CA designs. But these kind of design limits will not really balance the CA prt. They will just deter people from picking CA ... which, since CA is an unbalanced PRT, will balance the games i suppose ...

CA's instaform gives it an "unfair" advantage when it comes to growing pop and settling planets -- an economic advantage. To cripple its GR, or limit its hab, is merely an attempt to neutralize the instaform advantage -- an econ advantage. That kind of defeats the point of having a CA prt in the first place ... i'd rather see a restriction in some other area. For example, HE was corrected by removing gates. This might have been a little overkill, but it was still thematic -- good econ, poor tactical mobility. Trouble is, instaforming is such a huge advantage that it's hard ...

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