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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Mon, 20 January 2014 07:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Asmodai is currently offline Asmodai

 
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I think that we should start with no-comm and with the players that already joined as there is no agreement to change the rule(no majority of voices). We are already behind schedule. I dont think, that splitting game for 2 games(one with comm, one without) is neccesary - we will get 2 games without minimum players required on quite big maps, needing two hosts.

Can we agree the deadline for races?

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Mon, 20 January 2014 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is there anyone "for-comms" who would absolutely not play "no-comms"

I'm kind of split, as I expect no-comms to be less fun in many ways, but since I haven't tried it before...

Also would need to make a whole new set of racial compromises for no-comms....

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Mon, 20 January 2014 16:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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XAPBob wrote on Mon, 20 January 2014 09:39
Is there anyone "for-comms" who would absolutely not play "no-comms"?


I'll ask it the other way around.

If you are on the "with comms" list or on the "no comms" list and you would rather be on the "either way" list, let me know and I'll update the player list in this thread.

When we have enough players to make a game by adding the "either way" list to either the "with comms" list or to the "no comms" list, then we'll start a game.



What we need's a few good taters.

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Wed, 22 January 2014 15:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd love to play. Preferably no comms. Smile

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Wed, 22 January 2014 15:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I do agree with asmodai

[Updated on: Wed, 22 January 2014 15:54]

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Wed, 22 January 2014 19:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
skoormit is currently offline skoormit

 
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Nine players total interested.

Five players prefer no comms.
Three players prefer with comms.
One player will play either way.

Player list for game with no comms:
grzeg-t
kicks
Mac1
neilhoward
theen

Player list for game with comms:
Asmodai
fpunderl33t
XAPBob


Players who will play either way:
skoormit (will drop if game overfills)

HOST: nmid (confirmed. (he's a jolly good fellow))

Option for: Tomasoid

Asmodai and XAPBob have expressed some willingness to play without comms.
We therefore have, in theory, eight players willing to play without comms.

I will pm fpunderl33t to determine his interest in playing without comms. If he wants in, I'll drop out.

If anyone wants to change their preference, let me know.


[Updated on: Wed, 22 January 2014 20:01]




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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Fri, 24 January 2014 05:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi.
When we have this starting, could you send me some mail on maciekkl at o2 dot pl ?
I'n not visiting the site too often.

I prefer to play with "no comms" , but you can put me to "either way" group if it somehow would help.

And actually right now i'm in the trip, during which i wont be able to make a race. I'm back in one week and can start to work on race. (probably sunday is the sooner i could do it)
So if you want to start still in january i would have to pass. But if game starts in february, i'm still in.

BR
Mac

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Fri, 24 January 2014 18:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nine players total interested.

Five players prefer no comms.
Three players prefer with comms, but all three have agreed to play without comms.

Therefore, game on.

One player will wait for the next game.

Player list:
grzeg-t
kicks
Mac1
neilhoward
theen
Asmodai
fpunderl33t
XAPBob


Players for next game:
skoormit

HOST: nmid

Mac1 is away from home for the next week, then (I think) needs some time to prepare his race.
So we are possibly looking at a race deadline around Feb 7.

nmid, I leave it to you at this point to determine the actual deadline and communicate with the players (not a bad idea to get a final confirmation from all players at this point; some haven't posted in a while). Thanks again for hosting. Let me know when you would like me to host one for you. Thumbsup 2





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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Sat, 25 January 2014 16:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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pls where must races be sent ?

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Sat, 25 January 2014 17:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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kicks wrote on Sat, 25 January 2014 15:42
pls where must races be sent ?


nmid will provide instructions soon.



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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Sat, 25 January 2014 17:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nmid

 
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If everyone can please pm me their email ids with their forum names and race files...
or mail me on "nomoreidsleft at gmail dttt com"

Deadline for races 8th Saturday, 1200 forum time.
I'll gen and submit to Ron on Sunday, the 9th..

Please don't add any password to the race file and name the race with six chars, so that I can rename them without too many race corruption errors Smile
Do mention your forum name in the email and add sah in the email subject. Thanks!



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I used to curse when I got stuck in traffic... till I realised I AM traffic.

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Sun, 26 January 2014 19:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
neilhoward

 
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nmid wrote on Sat, 25 January 2014 14:52

... and name the race with six chars, so that I can rename them without too many race corruption errors Smile


Hi nmid,
I think showing only player numbers on the game page is a good idea, but those IDs do not need to match the actual race names. I would prefer that we retain our unique race names for the game itself; it would take some of the fun away to play a race named Player 3, in the game. my 2 cents

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Mon, 27 January 2014 06:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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neilhoward wrote on Mon, 27 January 2014 00:21
nmid wrote on Sat, 25 January 2014 14:52

... and name the race with six chars, so that I can rename them without too many race corruption errors Smile


Hi nmid,
I think showing only player numbers on the game page is a good idea, but those IDs do not need to match the actual race names. I would prefer that we retain our unique race names for the game itself; it would take some of the fun away to play a race named Player 3, in the game. my 2 cents


Have to say I agree - on condition that a) we don't have two races called the same (or too similar) name(s). and b) we don't have race names which give away the identity of the player.

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Mon, 27 January 2014 11:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i agree that it is more fun to give your race a unique name. the host can decide if any names are problematic. things to avoid:

a race name that you've used before (other players might recognize it and therefore know who the player is for that race and therefore have an advantage over players who don't recognize it)

a race name that matches your forum username or any other information about you that any of the players might know.

a race name that the above rules would forbid for one of the other players (for example, me playing a race called the XAPBobs).

a race name that communicates anything about your race (a JOAT named StartAt4), even if it is misleading (an HE named GateMeister).





[Updated on: Mon, 27 January 2014 11:44]




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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Mon, 27 January 2014 11:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"This race has won"

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Mon, 27 January 2014 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"This race name is false"


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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Fri, 31 January 2014 10:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kicks is currently offline kicks

 
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did my race file arrive ?

is it ok ?

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Fri, 31 January 2014 12:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And mine?

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Thu, 06 February 2014 01:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
neilhoward

 
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I am sorry to say that I will most likely not be able to play due to hardware failure. That means skoormit can play, as it should be. I hope I get a chance to join the next instance because it is a great game idea. ciao

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Thu, 06 February 2014 16:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I should probably note that I have seen ATSR1 throughout (as I'm hosting it).

Just for information - I have just compared the performance of 7 expert AI in my testbed (as per game parameters) against what I know to be the case in ATSR1, humans win - even without 1000 points extra in the wizard and with limitations on economy the worst human would still be on top of the brain dead AI.

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Thu, 06 February 2014 16:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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neilhoward wrote on Thu, 06 February 2014 06:29
I am sorry to say that I will most likely not be able to play due to hardware failure. That means skoormit can play, as it should be. I hope I get a chance to join the next instance because it is a great game idea. ciao

Is the hardware failure likely to be long enough lasting that a weeks delay would be impracticable? What would the other players think to that option?

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Thu, 06 February 2014 22:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
neilhoward

 
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I do not know how soon I will be able to replace the hardware, so better to go on without me.

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Fri, 07 February 2014 21:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nmid

 
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Hi again,

We are playing without comms.
Neil has dropped out and skoormit has stepped in.

I still have to get 5 race files...
Player list:
1. grzeg-t
2. kicks - Andrea - Recd.
3. Mac1
4. skoormit
5. theen - Ian - Recd.
6. Asmodai
7. fpunderl33t - Recd
8. XAPBob

We are 3.5 hours short of the race submission deadline... Not sure if everyone remembers about the deadline Smile

Btw, As a host, I need a clarification of the rules.
I thought the GR had to be between 13-17% too... however on re-reading the rules, I see that's not true. Can I get a confirmation about the GR limitations?


Are these rules final or am I missing some changes in the sub-pages?

skoormit wrote on Fri, 18 October 2013 00:23
All the Simple Races
Summary: A no-comms game with race design restrictions that prevent QS races and HP monsters and other frightening things.
6-8 players
-Medium / Dense / Distant
-Acc BBS

Race design restrictions:
--No immunities.
--No more than two clicks on any single setting on the production/factories/mines page.
--AR can make no more than one click to their "Annual Resources" setting.
--CA must be max-width on all 3 hab ranges (I dare you, XAPBob Smile ).
--JoaT can't take NAS or OBRM.

Special gameplay rules:
--No communication allowed between players. All silence, all the time.
--Single victor only, either by unanimous vote or by victory condition.

Victory conditions:
--Own 50% of all planets
--Achieve tech 22 in 6 fields.
--Exceed second place score by 100%
--Winner must meet 1
--At least 50 years must pass

Standard cheat disclaimer
--Chaff allowed
--Split-fleet dodge allowed
--Heal after gating allowed
--Everything else under the "Player Exploitable Bugs" section of the Known Bugs list is cheating

Schedule
--Every 26 hours until at least 2420.
--Thereafter (as soon as someone requests a slowdown), every 50 hours
--Will extend deadlines on request as needed for holidays/travel/other IRL nuisances.

Note: I am playing, and I would prefer if someone not playing would host. I will gladly host a game for you if you will host this game for me. Please PM me if you want me to owe you such a favor. Smile

Players interested (PM me; do NOT send races):
skoormit



[Updated on: Fri, 07 February 2014 22:08]




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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Fri, 07 February 2014 22:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
skoormit is currently offline skoormit

 
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nmid wrote on Fri, 07 February 2014 20:46

Player list:
1. grzeg-t
2. kicks - Andrea - Recd.
3. Mac1
4. skoormit
5. theen - Ian - Recd.
6. Asmodai
7. fpunderl33t - Recd
8. XAPBob


Please do randomize the player order so that we do not know who is playing which race.

Quote:

Btw, As a host, I need a clarification of the rules.
I thought the GR had to be between 13-17% too... however on re-reading the rules, I see that's not true.


No restrictions on PGR in this game. The "two clicks" rule only applies to the econ settings page.

Quote:

Are these rules final or am I missing some changes in the sub-pages?
...


Those are final. The OP thought of everything, it seems. Very Happy



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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Fri, 07 February 2014 22:17 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
nmid

 
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Good OP Razz

ps - darn, you pointed out the player order..
It would have been fun if players would have tried using that as a possible hint when the game started Razz


[Updated on: Fri, 07 February 2014 22:17]




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