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Thu, 02 May 2013 17:12  |
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 centrovert |
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Hello All,
New here and this is my first post. I have done my research here and elsewhere, yet I still am having a minor tech. issue. I don't seem to be saving multiple backup files in a solo game even though I have edited the stars.ini file with 'Backups=100'... and have done so directly under the [Misc] header. I still maintain it (the .ini) in my Win directory and have full access to write to it and its sub-folders/files as well. I run Win XP/Serv Pack 2. I am running stars26i available from abandonia, BTW... and with no add-ons, extensions or utilities.
I do save my most recent turn, and can copy any turn... save it to another folder and reload it any time I like, but I see no place where there appear any numbered backups stored for easy access/reloads.
Also...
Awesome game! It seems like I came to the party quite late, huh? I have been a fan of turn-based strategy my whole life (and strategy board games as well), and though I had seen this game many times for download, I never bothered. Sci-fi isn't exactly my favorite theme and that Ascendency game I bought all those years ago soured me on the genre. Yet this game rocks even against the AI! There seems to be a lot to learn, much less master. Granted, it took me two days to figure out how to build what I'll call a "compound custom transport order" able to pick up all my germanium AND the dunnage... and all in one haul... but I enjoy the challenges of learning such little quirks (but seriously, someone needs to put THAT into a strategy guide or in any section which details remote mining... figuring it out all by myself... my greatest in-game victory thus far  ).
Lastly, are there any newish players around for a noob PBEM who know how to host a game?
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| Re: Stars.ini modified... still no saves? |
Thu, 02 May 2013 22:29  |
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| skoormit |
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Funny, I had the exact same thing happen to me this week. I added the backups line to my .ini, and I stopped getting any backups at all!
I never figured out how to fix it. I just took out that line, and the normal BACKUP folder started working again.
And welcome to Stars. It is easily the best game ever, as you are in the process of discovering. Just ask the 200 or so of us still playing it after 20 years.
Subscribe to the New Game Announcements forum. A noob game will show up. In fact there's a series of them that have been filling up pretty regularly.
But you probably need to beat the AI first. And then probably you should get 25k resources by 2450 in a testbed. If you can't do those two things, you will be very frustrated by a PBEM, even against other noobs.
Boy, you have a lot of reading in front of you. Have fun! And when you run into stumpers, search the Academy forum and the wiki. If you are still stumped, post a question. We *love* to answer questions.
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| Re: Stars.ini modified... still no saves? |
Thu, 02 May 2013 22:55 |
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| leonidas |
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skoormit wrote on Thu, 02 May 2013 22:29But you probably need to beat the AI first. And then probably you should get 25k resources by 2450 in a testbed. If you can't do those two things, you will be very frustrated by a PBEM, even against other noobs.
Boy, you have a lot of reading in front of you. Have fun! And when you run into stumpers, search the Academy forum and the wiki. If you are still stumped, post a question. We *love* to answer questions.
Also, when you feel ready you could ask around for a one-on-one game (a friendly duel) with someone who is prepared to talk you through the game and critique race design and play.
I'd be happy to give you a game. We probably wouldn't finish it and could well end up playing a few before we actually do battle proper. Just PM me if you're interested.
leonidas.
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| Re: Stars.ini modified... still no saves? |
Sat, 04 May 2013 11:23 |
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| centrovert |
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nmid wrote on Fri, 03 May 2013 05:08Not that it should matter, but try editing the stars.ini when stars is closed.
Also, I sent you my copy of stars.ini.
Make a copy of yours and then replace it with mine (it will re-ask for your game serial number).
Take up Leonidas's offer. It will give you a massive boost in the AI > Human move.
In my case, I played against the AI for 10 years  (Didn't know about sah, didn't have a valid serial number etc etc), before I finally played against humans.. and it was an eye-opener 
Two things...
Thanks for the .ini file, but still no luck. Not a big issue, I will just save one out of every ten turns or so... but... this isn't going to create problems for PBEM games, right?
Secondly, after all the reading I have done, I figure I need to figure out how to build a 25k in 50 empire in a test bed before I do much of anything else. Today I'll try my luck at an HP-SD race with factories set to 15/8/25, mines at 15/3/7 and population at 1/2500.
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| Re: Stars.ini modified... still no saves? |
Sat, 04 May 2013 11:50 |
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The backups=99 doesn't work with human games generally.
As you aren't generating the next turn, you'll have to backup each year yourself.
Add me on gtalk... I'll share some of the common race design tips.
For eg,
> not taking less than 17% for an HP or 19% for a HG race.
> 1/2500 does work, but it's a pain to start it off... so in a full game, you'll need to ally with one of your neighbour.
> Taking RS is something most players do take to save minerals as well as getting a boost in shield stacking.. not to mention that the extra weight of armor makes it less viable to gate ships.
> Taking 1/7 or lower is a risky call, but might work if you have taken an immunity.
I know my minefields.. but I'm a chaff sweeper.
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| Re: Stars.ini modified... still no saves? |
Sat, 04 May 2013 12:36 |
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| skoormit |
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centrovert wrote on Sat, 04 May 2013 10:23
Thanks for the .ini file, but still no luck. Not a big issue, I will just save one out of every ten turns or so... but... this isn't going to create problems for PBEM games, right?
Strictly speaking, the backups are a luxury, not a necessity, for playing in a PBEM. If you aren't hosting a game, you can do without them.
Oh...try manually creating a "BACKUP" folder in the game directory (wherever the .xy is). I've noticed before that sometimes the game won't create that folder, but if the folder is there it will put the backup files in there each time you gen.
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| Re: Stars.ini modified... still no saves? |
Sun, 05 May 2013 05:35 |
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| leonidas |
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centrovert wrote on Sat, 04 May 2013 11:23Secondly, after all the reading I have done, I figure I need to figure out how to build a 25k in 50 empire in a test bed before I do much of anything else. Today I'll try my luck at an HP-SD race with factories set to 15/8/25, mines at 15/3/7 and population at 1/2500.
HP is a race seeking to take advantage of all those resources as the game matures. 25k by 2450 is not strictly necessary for HP, although certainly achievable.
The 25k by 2450 is a benchmark by which to test your overall economy building skills as much as race design.
If you can hit this target with any HG race (HE & AR excluded) with a relatively standard economy setting of:
19% PGR
factories of 12/9/13 1 kt less g checked
mines of 10/3/13
+ IFE
you are heading in the right direction.
Notice the mine and factories built setting is equal. This is fairly standard and with good reason.
You don't need to worry about race specific toys or research at this stage (you should be doing this solo, without any AI's to make it easier).
leonidas.
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| Re: Stars.ini modified... still no saves? |
Sun, 19 May 2013 23:02 |
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| leonidas |
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magic9mushroom wrote on Sun, 19 May 2013 07:59leonidas wrote on Sun, 05 May 2013 19:35If you can hit this target with any HG race (HE & AR excluded) with a relatively standard economy setting of:
Hitting 25k@50 with HE isn't hard, I've done it in real PBEMs.
With the economy settings detailed?
leonidas.
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| Re: Stars.ini modified... still no saves? |
Mon, 03 June 2013 13:18 |
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| iztok |
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Hi!
leonidas wrote on Mon, 20 May 2013 05:02magic9mushroom wrote on Sun, 19 May 2013 07:59Hitting 25k@50 with HE isn't hard, I've done it in real PBEMs.
With the economy settings detailed?
Check HE PRT section for details. But 25k@50 is very hard to achieve with 5% PGR, so I guess he had 3-immune with 6% PGR. The rest would be around 3 tech cheap, ISb, NRSE, OBRM, RS, factories 14/9/18/4, mines 10/3/23. With this race I reliably hit 34k-36k in tiny packed testbed (no MaxMin) and had IIRC 27K in real game.
BR, Iztok
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