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Re: Another beginner game Thu, 11 October 2012 09:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Seconded.
He who spoofs his scoreboard position in order to feign weakness might invite others to attack him when he's not yet ready to take on all comers. In this case, I'd say it serves him right. Who sows the wind, reaps the storm, they say.
Besides... isn't this whole thread labeled "beginner" per any chance? Beginner players just aren't supposed to spoof the scores, that belongs to the more experienced Smile
If PPS is off, people might just forget about playing dirty tricks with the scoreboard and instead focus on winning the game... which is, I believe, the goal we should all have in mind.

Just my my 2 cents

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Re: Another beginner game Thu, 11 October 2012 13:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yep, over thinking through non playing previously...

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Re: Another beginner game Fri, 12 October 2012 09:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Are all rules agreed upon now? We have 7 players, perhaps we can get you guys started this coming week, if you would like me to review your race files for suggestions email them to me.
sprocket262@sbcglobal.net



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Re: Another beginner game Sat, 13 October 2012 05:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sprocket wrote on Sat, 13 October 2012 00:55
Are all rules agreed upon now? We have 7 players, perhaps we can get you guys started this coming week, if you would like me to review your race files for suggestions email them to me.
sprocket262@sbcglobal.net


Non-AccBBS, slowtech, weaps must be expensive, JoaT and CA penalised by 100 and 200 respectively?

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poll.gif  Rules statement: Sat, 13 October 2012 10:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Players (7):
Asmodai, TRSMMaiden, magic9mushroom, franknorman, [XAP]Bob, loucifer, Little Eddie

Game setup:
- Medium Normal
- Distant starting positions
- No AccBBS
- No PPS
- Random events on
- Slow tech

Racial restrictions:
- JoAT (100) and CA (200) take (points) penalties - to be set to defences (unless penalty exceeded by 50 points)
- Weapons tech must be expensive
- No pre-game alliances

Playing rules:
- "Kill Starbase" battle order is banned
- Standard cheat disclaimer:
- - Split fleet/chaff/heal after gate all allowed
- - Min damage not allowed
- - - No building* alpha/beta ships after 2450, or your race has jihad tech. whichever is earlier
- - - To start a second torpedo slot on a SB the first slot must be full
* You don't have to scrap what you already have

Communications:
- In game meeting before communications allowed (i.e. when you know their race name)

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Re: Another beginner game Sat, 13 October 2012 16:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Finished my seasonal job this week. I have way too much time on my hands right now and I long for another STARS! game. This setting look interesting for me.

Would you be interested with another player? I have to admit that I'm not a beginner anymore, albeit I believe it would freeze in hell before I can picture me winning a STARS! game on my own.

-EoF



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Re: Another beginner game Sat, 13 October 2012 17:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Glad your back, we have 7, you would make 8 and its always better in even numbers.


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Re: Another beginner game Sat, 13 October 2012 23:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Heh, now no-one can claim I have an unfair advantage. Razz

EDIT: Race file emailed.


[Updated on: Sun, 14 October 2012 01:36]

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Re: Another beginner game Sun, 14 October 2012 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm not back. I'm simply here to play a game of STARS!. This is the only place I know I can get to it readily or even easily by finding players who have the same interest. I'll be happy to fade back out once we're started.

I will produce my race file ASAP. I expect it to be ready monday (tomorow). I'll then testbed it depending on time left.



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Re: Another beginner game Sun, 14 October 2012 16:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No big rush, only have 2 files at present.


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Re: Another beginner game Mon, 15 October 2012 03:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When is the deadline? I`m still in testbed...

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Re: Another beginner game Mon, 15 October 2012 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Looks like admin approved my account so I will be joining you guys here. Already exchanged some emails with the host and looking to get back into stars after 10 years. I can submit my race in a day's notice...

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Re: Another beginner game Mon, 15 October 2012 09:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lets try to get race files in by weeks end, that way I can give everything to Ron over weekend.

We are up to 9 players now.



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Re: Another beginner game Mon, 15 October 2012 11:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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With now 9 players, we can change map to large - now we dont have that empty and large space that troubled us several days ago. Also, starting positions now will be much closer - so it demands slightly different approach in race creation.

[Updated on: Mon, 15 October 2012 11:03]

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Re: Another beginner game Mon, 15 October 2012 15:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So only JoAT and CA have point penalties? All others standard?

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Re: Another beginner game Mon, 15 October 2012 19:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I guess so, it was not really discussed but last stone age game was that way, another option is prohibit joat from taking NAS.

200 point penalty is fair for CA, I did that last game and grew immense.



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Re: Another beginner game Wed, 17 October 2012 05:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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To confirm, you have received my race file, sprocket?

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Re: Another beginner game Wed, 17 October 2012 10:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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magic9mushroom wrote on Wed, 17 October 2012 05:26
To confirm, you have received my race file, sprocket?


yes



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Re: Another beginner game Thu, 18 October 2012 09:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Greetings,

Would you have room for 1 more in this game?

This would be a first game of Stars for me. Ive played plenty of trial games(turn 2030-50~) over the last few wks, getting used to the mechanics and economy, but dont really have any interest in battling agaisnt AI so havent continued beyond there. I do have plenty of general experience with the genre/PBW.

Crowe



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Re: Another beginner game Thu, 18 October 2012 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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With 10 players, I'd suggest Medium Dense universe.

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Re: Another beginner game Thu, 18 October 2012 11:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Medium dense it is unless there are objections. 10 players is going to see major wars by turn 30. Possibly players eliminated by turn 50.

I would suggest some changes if universe stays medium. Currently I am playing in a medium universe and the dynamics are much different than the Stone age slog these rules were borrowed from since we will not be in a large universe some things are very different.

Time to grow is far more limited and some advantages are greatly diminished while others are far more pronounced, I am borrowing these rules from the game I am in since it is more similar to what we are about to start and the game rules are conceived of by players with far more experience than us.

This should have been posted right away but I did not give it much thought until I looked at some race files and compared them to my current games.

Factoryless HE is banned - Lack of stargates is minor issue and double pop growth is huge.(factoryless defined as settings below 10/?/10)

WM - 50 point penalty - yak phasers and fast tactical speed in slow tech/ weapon exp universe is major. Almost game breaking.

Joat - 25 point penalty but cannot take NAS OR 100 point penalty, players choice.

CA - 50 point penalty but cannot take TT or 200 point penalty, players choice.

I apologize if this messes up anybody, this was my bad. I should have been a more active host earlier, if there are any objections or concerns please post or email me.



[Updated on: Thu, 18 October 2012 11:35]




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Re: Another beginner game Thu, 18 October 2012 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was building my race for a large normal game. I thought that was what you said last.

I don't mind, but can we get a solid confirmation before I finalize my race?



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Re: Another beginner game Thu, 18 October 2012 17:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Changes things a little, I should probably apologise for being a little vocal up thread


Are the other aspects of universe definition staying the same / playing rules?

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Re: Another beginner game Thu, 18 October 2012 17:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sprocket wrote on Fri, 19 October 2012 02:05
CA - 50 point penalty but cannot take TT or 200 point penalty, players choice.


Why are you giving CA such a boost? Non-TT CA is already competitive with TT CA, especially in crowded environments. And now you're planning to give them less penalty than a JoaT?!


[Updated on: Thu, 18 October 2012 17:50]

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Re: Another beginner game Thu, 18 October 2012 17:52 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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EoF is correct, this is originally a large universe.

Ignore my last post suggesting any changes, we will leave it as it was originally, basically a repeat of stone age slog with some tweaks.

Game setup:
- Large Normal
- Distant starting positions
- No AccBBS
- No PPS
- Random events on
- Slow tech

Racial restrictions:
- JoAT (100) and CA (200) take (points) penalties - to be set to defences (unless penalty exceeded by 50 points)
- Weapons tech must be expensive
- No pre-game alliances

Playing rules:
- "Kill Starbase" battle order is banned
- Standard cheat disclaimer:
- - Split fleet/chaff/heal after gate all allowed
- - Min damage not allowed
- - - No building* alpha/beta ships after 2450, or your race has jihad tech. whichever is earlier
- - - To start a second torpedo slot on a SB the first slot must be full
* You don't have to scrap what you already have

Communications:
- In game meeting before communications allowed

I wish I knew how to edit out my last post.


[Updated on: Thu, 18 October 2012 17:55]




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