I would suggest finding a beginner's game, they do start games just for newcomers all the time here.

Yes new member but not new to Stars! Played in multiple games against human players. I can easily get 25K by 2450 in a testbed. The game setup looks interesting.

Yes new member but not new to Stars! Played in multiple games against human players. I can easily get 25K by 2450 in a testbed. The game setup looks interesting.

I think you have already played with jennyhotchic. You lost many ships.

You should. Just remember to take regenerating shields this time.

jennyhotchic wrote on Fri, 13 July 2012 05:23

Yes new member but not new to Stars! Played in multiple games against human players. I can easily get 25K by 2450 in a testbed. The game setup looks interesting.

In the interests of a good game, would you like having a small duel with me? We can do regular duel settings or ice age settings...
Could finish it in 2-3 hours over the weekend.

Okay, okay, I'll play. The Nightbugs return - with a new strategem!

Umm - in the earlier stone ages you were limited to 8% growth - has that restriction gone?

Out of curiosity, why is HE banned? Is there a critical advantage that they'd get in these starting conditions that I'm just unaware of?

Edit: I was never intending to play HE, just so you know.

Coyote wrote on Sun, 15 July 2012 16:45

Out of curiosity, why is HE banned? Is there a critical advantage that they'd get in these starting conditions that I'm just unaware of?

Edit: I was never intending to play HE, just so you know.

Is it because of ccmaster's monster HE?

why is HE banned

Is it because of ccmaster's monster HE?

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why is HE banned

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Is it because of ccmaster's monster HE?

A prior game of SAS we allowed HE with the restrictions that its growth rate be lower than 10(20) and that its factories cannot be worse than the default. That rule was to prevent ccmaster's factoryless HE race from being used.

But even with this rule, we found that with such low planets per player, HE could go tri immune or 2 immune and have an advantage over the others. Rolf won a game with a pretty fast 2 immune HE that had good factories too. I played a tri immune 6% growth HE in that game and did well too. After this experience I decided to just ban HE for SAS games.

To get sas7 going, what about:
1) Gathering the players
2) Letting them vote (and only the players)

Both options, banning torps or allowing the min dam bug are ways to go.

So only the interested players decide and can still adapt their PRT and strat choices. And deciding on a way before the game starts is much better than realizing the problem only midway as we did in the last game.

A compromise might be just banning Alpha and Beta Torps only. By the time Delta trops are available, most or all races would have CCs anyway which limits the problem of the min dmg bug. This compromise is also better in the sense that the battlefield domination by FFs is ended earlier by the Delta Torps (which it should be doing in the spirit of the original Stars) rather then by the later Jihad.