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slimdrag00n wrote on Fri, 06 May 2011 08:27

Thanks. I don't have back ups sadly. But the planet was red but there was no way 10k pop would disappear. Id only lose like 1% of them if anything.

Was it 10k or 100 pop?

As I understood you, you popdropped 10k last year, picked up 100 pop and dropped that this turn.
Red planets with 100-200 pop, do end up getting uncolonised.

I'm assuming the 2nd red planet was already colonised..
Though it shouldn't make a difference as pop dies/grows before WP1.

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but that means that you should still have the 100 pop in your fleet, as planets get uninhabited before WP1 as well.

Are you sure you uploaded the pop?

ps - You can't be AR ofcourse.. and I'm sure you would have said if you had radiating engines killing of colonists.
Darn it, now I want to know what happened.

Anything that takes my mind of studies

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nmid wrote on Thu, 05 May 2011 23:06

slimdrag00n wrote on Fri, 06 May 2011 08:27 Thanks. I don't have back ups sadly. But the planet was red but there was no way 10k pop would disappear. Id only lose like 1% of them if anything. Was it 10k or 100 pop? As I understood you, you popdropped 10k last year, picked up 100 pop and dropped that this turn. Red planets with 100-200 pop, do end up getting uncolonised. I'm assuming the 2nd red planet was already colonised.. Though it shouldn't make a difference as pop dies/grows before WP1. ... but that means that you should still have the 100 pop in your fleet, as planets get uninhabited before WP1 as well. Are you sure you uploaded the pop? ps - You can't be AR ofcourse.. and I'm sure you would have said if you had radiating engines killing of colonists. Darn it, now I want to know what happened. Anything that takes my mind of studies

I am missing 10,000 population, not 100 pop just to clarify. Its not on the previous planet and 0 pop on ship.

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ah.. 100kt, must have been a typo in the 1st post.

So.. I say they defected to the enemy.
It happens.. especially when you have a message saying that 400 of his pop took over the planet.

ps - you really should edit the stars.ini file in your VM and add backups=50... it should be in your win folder

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nmid wrote on Thu, 05 May 2011 23:19

ah.. 100kt, must have been a typo in the 1st post. So.. I say they defected to the enemy. It happens.. especially when you have a message saying that 400 of his pop took over the planet. ps - you really should edit the stars.ini file in your VM and add backups=50... it should be in your win folder

The game uses kt so I guess your right. K in the US is the symbol for me meaning thousand.

I am pretty sure I did not unload all. Even If I did I would have some pop on the planet due to the planet only having less then 400 of his pop on it.

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slimdrag00n wrote on Fri, 06 May 2011 08:57

nmid wrote on Thu, 05 May 2011 23:19 ah.. 100kt, must have been a typo in the 1st post. So.. I say they defected to the enemy. It happens.. especially when you have a message saying that 400 of his pop took over the planet. ps - you really should edit the stars.ini file in your VM and add backups=50... it should be in your win folder The game uses kt so I guess your right. K in the US is the symbol for me meaning thousand. I am pretty sure I did not unload all. Even If I did I would have some pop on the planet due to the planet only having less then 400 of his pop on it.

hmm.. so that means the 400 pop is after the battle.
Perhaps that means that you DID drop the 100kt pop, but the other guy dropped that many too.
Been some time since I've had a pop-drop (and no.. I don't one in KFIAPB ).

I'm coming up with the most basic possibilities as I've realised that the far-fetched ones rarely happen

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slimdrag00n wrote on Fri, 06 May 2011 09:11

If he was online I could then ask if he somehow dropped about 100kt on accident as well. Ill have to wait till tomorrow to ask.

If it was a duel you were playing, you could see if he has the backups of the last turn.
If it was a game.... hmmm... then let me know what he said

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The game uses kt so I guess your right. K in the US is the symbol for me meaning thousand.

I so understand what you mean! I have exactly the same problem and even now, after more than about 20 games played, I still have to double and triple check about every turn to make sure I don't make that mistake again. This system is so frustrating to me too...

On another note, how can you not have backups? That's really a must. How could you check on intelligence collected a few turns ago to confirm or deny something you are not sure of anymore?

All you have to do is create a new directory with a number and copy the .xy, .h, .x and .m files to the folder. After that you simply need to double click on the .m file (after association) and you have your old turn in front of you in an instant. You can even open multiple instances of STARS! at the same time.

It really help for the kind of problem you have. It might simply be because you clicked on the wrong button (cancel, can happen more often than you'd want) and send no colons or not enough because you didn't cancel the previous order. With proper backup it would be a breeze to make sure of that.

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slimdrag00n wrote on Fri, 06 May 2011 18:23

There is no order that I know about that kills all pop in a ship.

"Dump cargo", which can be automated, and manually dropping to an empty planet.

Perhaps "unload all" (including colonists) can do it too, but I seem to remember there were some safeguards in that case.

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m.a@stars wrote on Fri, 06 May 2011 14:59

slimdrag00n wrote on Fri, 06 May 2011 18:23 There is no order that I know about that kills all pop in a ship. "Dump cargo", which can be automated, and manually dropping to an empty planet. Perhaps "unload all" (including colonists) can do it too, but I seem to remember there were some safeguards in that case.

I wish I did do dump cargo or unload all at least I would still have my pop because planets were not empty.

Eagle of Fire is right It is important to have back ups I should get on that this week.

Something like this happened to me a year or so ago, when I had bombers dissipate into thin air. I had no back up to prove it happened. Maybe I will learn my lesson.

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Oh, and Ron has those backup files, but I don't know how much it would cost to get them.

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BlueTurbit wrote on Mon, 09 May 2011 23:01

Oh, and Ron has those backup files, but I don't know how much it would cost to get them.

cost? I don't charge anything to run SAH, nor do I charge anything to do this kind of thing. SAH keeps the last 5 turns as backups, and game hosts can use Host Utility to restore one of those. Game hosts can ask me to send them a zip of the game's backups if they wish. No charge.

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