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Re: New AR-only game Tue, 08 June 2010 20:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AlexTheGreat is currently offline AlexTheGreat

 
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1 Bystander (20k test in & good, race file in)
2 Marduk (20k test in & good, race file NOT in)
3 Galien (20k test in & good, race file NOT in)
4 wasp ("20k test" not verified, race file NOT in) but see below
Race file deadline is Jun 11, GMT 24:00

Need 2 go thru "kill starbase" voting & tally. majority rules with "kill starbase" allowed if a tie.

race file dealine OK with me

wasp
I have sent u a PM but this basically what I said:
Your test was recieved (some days ago) but I cannot find the email to get PW. Looked Hi & lo and checked PMs 2. Sorry mate.
Can u resend pls so I get PW, whether the race is final (& have the date of original message)
Sorry 4 the inconvenience.

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Re: New AR-only game Thu, 10 June 2010 04:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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All players have passed their res test & all game race files are in.

Hopefully I can generate the game tomorrow.

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Re: New AR-only game Thu, 10 June 2010 06:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iztok wrote on Sun, 06 June 2010 06:46

Hi!

Goober, are you still interested? Please answer!

BR, Iztok


Yeah!

Been practising.

Can't believe I missed this post though.

Goober.

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Re: New AR-only game Thu, 10 June 2010 06:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iztok wrote on Sun, 23 May 2010 19:10


To vote for:
- "kill starbase" banned

BR, Iztok


I vote for Kill Starbase.

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Re: New AR-only game Thu, 10 June 2010 07:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goober, in what game you'd like to be: with AccBBS on or off?

BR, Iztok

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Re: New AR-only game Thu, 10 June 2010 07:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iztok wrote on Thu, 10 June 2010 21:27

Hi!

Goober, in what game you'd like to be: with AccBBS on or off?

BR, Iztok


I was planning on AccBBS on, but it looks like that may be held up if I do. So I'm happy to give off a go.

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Re: New AR-only game Thu, 10 June 2010 09:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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goober wrote on Thu, 10 June 2010 13:43

I'm happy to give (AccBBS) off a go.

IMO we have a problem. The game was intended for 4 or 6 players, but now we have 5.
I see two possible solutions:
1) 5 players in small dense (160 stars or 32 per player)
2) 5 players in small placked (240 stars or 48 per player)

Other suggestions?

BR, Iztok

[Updated on: Thu, 10 June 2010 09:18]

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Re: New AR-only game Thu, 10 June 2010 15:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marduk is currently offline Marduk

 
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iztok wrote on Thu, 10 June 2010 09:17

Hi!
goober wrote on Thu, 10 June 2010 13:43

I'm happy to give (AccBBS) off a go.

IMO we have a problem. The game was intended for 4 or 6 players, but now we have 5.
I see two possible solutions:
1) 5 players in small dense (160 stars or 32 per player)
2) 5 players in small placked (240 stars or 48 per player)

Other suggestions?

BR, Iztok




I don't care either way; and I wouldn't worry about holding up the AccBBS game if you prefer joining it. As long as you could get your game files in reasonably soon it shouldn't be an issue. (In my opinion, the others may or may not agree.)

I am still waiting for the play race from Iztok and AlexTheGreat, or confirmation that the test game used will be the play race. [Edit - Iztoks race is in, Goober may be joining this one in which case a 20k test and the race are still needed.]

[Updated on: Thu, 10 June 2010 16:57]



One out of five dentists recommends occasional random executions to keep the peasants cowed and servile.

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Re: New AR-only game Thu, 10 June 2010 16:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 Even with only five players, I'd have a slight preference for small, packed in the AccBBS game. Whatever is decided, I won't need to change my race.

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Re: New AR-only game Thu, 10 June 2010 17:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Marduk wrote on Fri, 11 June 2010 05:36


As long as you could get your game files in reasonably soon it shouldn't be an issue. (In my opinion, the others may or may not agree.)


I've been working to the 11th June deadline.

I have a 20k game file ready to go. But I'm finalising an actual race this evening and trying very hard to meet the recommendations of my spreadsheet telling me how much pop should be where ...

Which is down to you sir! Hab square values be damned Evil or Very Mad

Much hard work Sad

Laughing




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Re: New AR-only game Fri, 11 June 2010 01:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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goober wrote on Thu, 10 June 2010 17:50

But I'm finalising an actual race this evening and trying very hard to meet the recommendations of my spreadsheet telling me how much pop should be where ...

Which is down to you sir! Hab square values be damned Evil or Very Mad

Much hard work Sad

Laughing




I only vaguely follow my own advice - trying to really optimize your population distribution costs a fortune in shipping. I mostly just try to approximately balance my population in regions according to my method, and within a given region just make sure the higher-hab worlds have more pop, not necessarily the 'right' proportion.

I do fairly well without having to have four or five transports serving each world. I don't have a problem with some micromanagement, but that would be going overboard. Maybe I will for a test run now that my new goal is 100k (in theory I should be able to reach it - in practice?), but I don't know if I can put up with that much work for 50 years.

One out of five dentists recommends occasional random executions to keep the peasants cowed and servile.

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Re: New AR-only game Fri, 11 June 2010 01:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

trying very hard to meet the recommendations of my spreadsheet telling me how much pop should be where ...

One can optimize pop if having enough minerals to build needed freighters. Which is usually not the case with the early-game AR. So do what you can, but save some minerals for warships - I do intend to "interfere" with my neighbours' expansion. Wink

If you really want to get a feeling how our early game will look like, put in your small uni 3 or 4 allied expert TurnInDrones (SS), that love packs of Beta torpedo DDs. Twisted Evil

BR, Iztok

[Updated on: Fri, 11 June 2010 01:58]

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Re: New AR-only game Fri, 11 June 2010 11:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iztok wrote on Thu, 10 June 2010 23:17

Hi!
goober wrote on Thu, 10 June 2010 13:43

I'm happy to give (AccBBS) off a go.

IMO we have a problem. The game was intended for 4 or 6 players, but now we have 5.
I see two possible solutions:
1) 5 players in small dense (160 stars or 32 per player)
2) 5 players in small placked (240 stars or 48 per player)

Other suggestions?

BR, Iztok





Packed preferred.

Goober.

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Re: New AR-only game Fri, 11 June 2010 11:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iztok wrote on Thu, 10 June 2010 15:17


I see two possible solutions:
1) 5 players in small dense (160 stars or 32 per player)
2) 5 players in small placked (240 stars or 48 per player)



I'd say:
* 4 players: dense
* 5-8 players: packed

But I am fine with whatever the host decides and wouldn't need any race design changes.

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Re: New AR-only game Fri, 11 June 2010 13:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marduk is currently offline Marduk

 
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 Goober has submitted a valid 20k test and a race file, and AlexTheGreat has submitted his race file. We are good to go!

Except... what shall we name this contest? AlexTheGreat suggested Unreal 1 and Unreal 2; I was thinking Allaron and Allaroff, since they sound sort of name-like but are descriptive. What say the hapless test subjects?

One out of five dentists recommends occasional random executions to keep the peasants cowed and servile.

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Re: New AR-only game Fri, 11 June 2010 13:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Altruist wrote on Fri, 11 June 2010 16:50

iztok wrote on Thu, 10 June 2010 15:17


I see two possible solutions:
1) 5 players in small dense (160 stars or 32 per player)
2) 5 players in small placked (240 stars or 48 per player)



I'd say:
* 4 players: dense
* 5-8 players: packed

But I am fine with whatever the host decides and wouldn't need any race design changes.



I also prefer
4 players: dense
5-8 players: packed

Doesnt sound like it will make much difference -
Still get crushed my Marduks 100k @ Yr50 race!!!

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Re: New AR-only game Fri, 11 June 2010 13:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Galien wrote on Fri, 11 June 2010 13:04

I also prefer
4 players: dense
5-8 players: packed

Doesnt sound like it will make much difference -
Still get crushed my Marduks 100k @ Yr50 race!!!



No, no... this race only got 80k with a great hab draw and no serious mineral shortages. And while I researched weapons, I didn't build many other than on orbitals. Actual in-game performance will be much lower.

100k is my new target, though, with no real-game considerations used. I plan to save every year the way I do with a normal game and if I get anywhere near 100k give the files to Gible for posting. A hint to would-be AR players, read the IS forum as well. They have a lot in common.

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Re: New AR-only game Fri, 11 June 2010 15:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And i thought i can manage AR race good ....
But 100k in 50 years ??, thats sounds impossible to me for any race Razz
Now i'm scared to death Sad

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Re: New AR-only game Fri, 11 June 2010 16:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mac1 wrote on Fri, 11 June 2010 15:30

And i thought i can manage AR race good ....
But 100k in 50 years ??, thats sounds impossible to me for any race Razz

100k by 2450 is possible for any race other than AR (easy with CA), and since I've hit 80k and seen improvements I can make in the race and didn't go completely wild with micromanagement, I believe it is possible for ARs as well. Not taking IFE by itself added 20k to my 2450 resources once I figured out how to deal with the lack (thanks Kotk!). Of course I'm trying it with a race that could compete in a real game (as much as an AR can, at least); many of the highest 2450 figures (way, way over 100k) are from races that would be destroyed easily by any normal race in a real game.
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Now i'm scared to death Sad

Don't be, I'm in the other game. Smile Besides, since it is a real game I am guaranteed to get an incredibly bad hab draw, or have ridiculously tiny amounts of boranium (since iron and germ won't be *too* low by game setup). At least I don't have to worry as much about comet strikes to the homeworld as an AR. But like I said, I'm going to try for 100k and if I get anywhere close the files will be available. You might learn enough that could apply to your playstyle that you surpass me.

One out of five dentists recommends occasional random executions to keep the peasants cowed and servile.

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Re: New AR-only game Sat, 12 June 2010 00:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 Mwuahahahaha! You are all too late to suggest a name - I am trying to gen a reasonable HW distribution now. So I think I will go with "The AR at play".

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Re: New AR-only game Sat, 12 June 2010 01:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Marduk wrote on Sun, 06 June 2010 02:49

Kudos to Iztok for investing in weapons tech in his test


Hmmm.

I only managed PB CC's by 2417 in my test. Will that be good enough?

Which I know is against the rules, but Iztok has threatened us all with early attacks:

iztok wrote on Fri, 11 June 2010 15:55

So do what you can, but save some minerals for warships - I do intend to "interfere" with my neighbours' expansion. Wink
BR, Iztok


So I thought I'd better be prepared.

Goober.

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Re: New AR-only game Sat, 12 June 2010 06:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Marduk wrote on Fri, 11 June 2010 22:29

100k by 2450
... I believe it is possible for ARs as well.

I'd say not in small packed. You'd need to move to the "normal" uni size, because in small uni one runs out of good planets pretty fast. Then he's "stuck" with terraforming more or less good yellows.

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I'm going to try for 100k and if I get anywhere close the files will be available.

I'm looking forward to see them with great interest.

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since it is a real game I am guaranteed to get an incredibly bad hab draw

That's exactly what I tried to minimize with my race, tuned to 40 or less planets. Now I'm stuck with it in an uni where I'd use quite different settings for it. Well, I have a small consolation for that: yesterday's picnic was great. Cheers

BR, Iztok

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Re: New AR-only game Sat, 12 June 2010 06:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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goober wrote on Sat, 12 June 2010 07:09

Which I know is against the rules, but Iztok has threatened us all with early attacks

This is just a propaganda, intended to convince you into investing lots of early minerals into warships instead into colony drive. I'm glad it's working. Wink And at the time when I posted it, the game didn't officialy start yet. Deal

BR, Iztok

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Re: New AR-only game Sat, 12 June 2010 06:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iztok wrote on Sat, 12 June 2010 20:19

Hi!
goober wrote on Sat, 12 June 2010 07:09

Which I know is against the rules, but Iztok has threatened us all with early attacks

This is just a propaganda, intended to convince you into investing lots of early minerals into warships instead into colony drive. I'm glad it's working. Wink And at the time when I posted it, the game didn't officialy start yet. Deal

BR, Iztok


Looks like the competition has him worried boys if Iztok has to resort to such underhand tactics Razz

Just wish I was the one he's worried about Crying or Very Sad

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when have the races to be in ?

100k in year 2450 is not the target you should have, resources dont defend you Stations Twisted Evil



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