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I now am running Windows 7 64bit.

Stars will not run so am I SOL?


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Re: Windows 7 64bit Thu, 22 April 2010 12:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hmmm,

How about a virtual install of xp... then run it under that.

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Re: Windows 7 64bit Thu, 22 April 2010 20:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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donjon wrote on Fri, 23 April 2010 02:10

Hmmm,

How about a virtual install of xp... then run it under that.


That's what I do. XP in a VM. If you have pro / ultimate edition you actually get a license and a pre installed VM that can integrate with the shell. Just search on 'XP Mode' and you should find info.

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donjon wrote on Thu, 22 April 2010 11:10

Hmmm,

How about a virtual install of xp... then run it under that.


Hey! it worked!!! Very Happy



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Re: Windows 7 64bit Tue, 29 June 2010 18:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi all

I've been away for a while... anyway, new install - thought I'd try stars out, ran into the 64bit problem.

Given that I don't have windows ultimate for the built in virtual XP option, anyone care to suggest the easiest way to set up a virtual machine for this?

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Re: Windows 7 64bit Wed, 30 June 2010 03:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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q974739 wrote on Wed, 30 June 2010 10:57

Hi all

I've been away for a while... anyway, new install - thought I'd try stars out, ran into the 64bit problem.

Given that I don't have windows ultimate for the built in virtual XP option, anyone care to suggest the easiest way to set up a virtual machine for this?


I generally turn to Sun's Virtual Box, which runs XP(assuming you have a key) or Linux just fine. If you're happy with playing in a 1024x768 window there's a Dosbox installation of Win3.11 customised to run (only) Stars! downloadable at the wiki.

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Re: Windows 7 64bit Sat, 10 July 2010 07:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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q974739 wrote on Wed, 30 June 2010 08:57

Hi all

I've been away for a while... anyway, new install - thought I'd try stars out, ran into the 64bit problem.

Given that I don't have windows ultimate for the built in virtual XP option, anyone care to suggest the easiest way to set up a virtual machine for this?




https://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/default.aspx

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Re: Windows 7 64bit Sun, 11 July 2010 12:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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magic9mushroom wrote on Sat, 10 July 2010 13:36

q974739 wrote on Wed, 30 June 2010 08:57

Hi all

I've been away for a while... anyway, new install - thought I'd try stars out, ran into the 64bit problem.

Given that I don't have windows ultimate for the built in virtual XP option, anyone care to suggest the easiest way to set up a virtual machine for this?




https://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/default.aspx


For the record:
"You must have Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, or Ultimate to run Windows XP Mode."

I assume most people have Home? ... It's what I got as a free upgrade after buying a new laptop with vista. Been waiting to upgrade till my last Stars! game ended. Smile Which was early this week. Smile
Upgrade planned for this weekend but officially from today Belgium is having a heat wave and my brain is melting ... not a good time to mess with your OS. Smile

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Re: Windows 7 64bit Sun, 18 July 2010 20:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hah! Upgraded to win7 this weekend: home premimum ... and ... drumm roll (what, no icon for that?) ... Stars! is still working!! Bounce

wOOt 2 (touch wood!)

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Re: Windows 7 64bit Fri, 27 August 2010 21:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Only the 64 bits version(s) are faulty. 64 bits are somehow not able to work with old 16 bits software... And STARS! is a Win 3.11 16 bits software.

If you have the 32 bits version though, everything is fine. WinXP is also a 32 bits version BTW.

For those who don't want to mess around with things they don't understand (even though there should not be many around here) there is a DOSBox Win 3.11 version of STARS! on the Wiki. Works straight out of the box (zip).



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Re: Windows 7 64bit Sat, 28 August 2010 22:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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n my momentarily slightly to completly drunken state... I think it's absolutly fine to evaluate 64 or 32 or whatever bit architecture on how fine they can handle Stars!

What else is a computer for?

If a computer or worse: software, stops you from galactic conquest, scrap it! It's your enemy.

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Re: Windows 7 64bit Thu, 16 December 2010 16:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Microsoft removed the 16bit subsystem from 64bit versions of Vista and beyond. So Stars! is likely calling libraries that don't exist anymore...


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Re: Windows 7 64bit Fri, 14 January 2011 23:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Please Help Me
I've been trying off and on for over a decade to get the game stars. I only recently found this site. I have a windows 7x64 home premium Toshiba laptop computer with an 8 core i7 Q740 processor. I have a key but no CD. I have two questions:
1: How can I install the game? Is the STARS26JRC4.ZIP in the downloads section the full, playable game? Could I use it to play both multiplayer with other people on this site and single player?
2: How do I get this game to run on my computer? Is there a way that I can do this without needing a non-windows OS like linux or spending $50+ on a 7 pro upgrade/32 bit version of windows? Thanks.

PS: I am NOT a computer expert.


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Very easy solution: go here and download DOSBoxStars.rar 4.92MB. Unpack and follow instruction in readme.txt. Should then be working under Windows 3.11 condition, using DOSBox.

The DOSBox solution works quite slow on my own machine but DOSBox upgraded its version since I last tryied it. Not to say that if you run a Windows 7 64bits OS, your computer is probably something like 2 to 3 times faster than mine.

The reason why you cannot play STARS! on your computer is really because it is 64 bits and because 64 versions of Windows simply don't have the required modules to run the older 16 bits programs. I am pretty sure that you could manage to run STARS! on your machine if you find how and are willing to fiddle with your machine a lot... But since you said you don't know much about computer, it might not be for you.

If you don't know much about STARS! then the Wiki is also a good place to look at. Smile



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Re: Windows 7 64bit Sat, 15 January 2011 15:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What is a rar file and how do I unpack it? Is it like a .zip file?
Thanks

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Celebrinbor1 wrote on Fri, 14 January 2011 20:16

Please Help Me

Hi Celebrinbor1,
I run Stars! in Oracle Virtual Box (running Windows XP) on my Win7 64 machine. This program is free, and useful for running other 16bit programs. I would be happy to walk you through setting it up on your machine. Do you have access to Windows XP installation software?
You can download the Oracle software at virtualbox. PM me here if you care to schedule some time to go over the setup.

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Celebrinbor1 wrote on Sat, 15 January 2011 21:57

What is a rar file and how do I unpack it? Is it like a .zip file?
Thanks

A rar fil is a compressed file like a zip file. The freeware program 7zip (http://www.7-zip.org/) will unpack rar files, though it cannot make rar files (I do not know of any freeware program that can create rar files).


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Thanks for all the help. I (hopefully) only have 1 more question:
what does this mean:

After installing DOSBox edit the (end of) dosbox.conf supplied to correct the path in the line "mount c c:\dosboxc"

I double click on the file and dosbox opens and quickly closes. It resembles what happened when I forgot to type system ("PAUSE"); at the end of my school's c++ hello world class project. What do I do? PS: to be more accurate about how much I know about commputers, I've taken 1 semester of c++. I've had an extremely small amount of exposure to C++ and xml, but almost nothing else.
PS: when the instructions said "associate .conf files with DOSBox", I assumed it meant to tell my computer that when ever it sees a file with the extention .conf, it means to open it with dosbox. Is this right? Many thanks.


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DOSBox is a DOS emulator. If you edit the end of the configuration file of DOSBox, you will be able to enter text which will be automatically run when you start DOSBox. Pretty much like Autoexec.bat in the DOS era.

I am not sure if the .conf file in the .rar is still compatible with the new version of DOSBox. If it is not the case the easiest solution is to learn the commands required to mount a drive in DOSBox and type it to be able to mount the directory you have unpacked the .rar files.

If you have a little time and can learn easily then you can probably learn the commands of DOSBox easily. If it is not the case then get back to me, I'll help you.

All the info you need is in DOSBox help file, BTW.



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Re: Windows 7 64bit Sun, 16 January 2011 17:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for the response. Sorry for forgetting to update this but I figured it out late last night.

The file is NOT compatable with the new DOSBOX, you have to copy paste the last few lines into DOSBOX's config file. The stars! config file will not work. THanks anyways


PS: the other reason why I couldn't get it working is that dosbox apparently can't see the \ key on my keyboard (key works with every other program)... meaning that I couldn't write the \s needed to write file names and I had to find a work around.


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DOSBox use the old DOS keyboard mapping. \ should be located right next to your right shift button or enter button, like old times.

I know it is possible to remap the keyboard with DOSBox if you absolutely need to. But if you already figured out that you can simply copy and paste the content of the .conf in the .rar then you probably already solved your problem and it should work.



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Celebrinbor1 wrote on Mon, 17 January 2011 11:28

The file is NOT compatable with the new DOSBOX, you have to copy paste the last few lines into DOSBOX's config file. The stars! config file will not work.

It works just fine for me. The latest DOSBox version being 0.74. Tho in the readme it where says to use the command: "C:\Program Files\DOSBox-0.72\dosbox.exe" -conf "C:\DOSBoxC\dosbox.conf"
I instead used "C:\Program Files\DOSBox-0.74\DOSBox.exe" -conf "C:\DOSBoxC\dosbox.conf"
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PS: the other reason why I couldn't get it working is that dosbox apparently can't see the \ key on my keyboard (key works with every other program)... meaning that I couldn't write the \s needed to write file names and I had to find a work around.

Stars! only supports Dos/Win3.11 8.3 filenames so you shouldn't be putting \s in them.

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He still need the \ key for any kind of command which call for an expended directory.

Even if he only wanted to mount a drive from his main HD, he would still need to type \ several times. For example, to mount c:\games\oldgames, he would still need to type \ 2 times.



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Eagle of Fire wrote on Mon, 17 January 2011 23:00

He still need the \ key for any kind of command which call for an expended directory.

Even if he only wanted to mount a drive from his main HD, he would still need to type \ several times. For example, to mount c:\games\oldgames, he would still need to type \ 2 times.

Yes, but he can(and needs to) edit the .conf file outside (before running) DOSBox

ETA: actually if he unpacks the rar to c:\ he doesn't even need to edit the .conf file.


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