Is there such a thing as freighter chaff? Is there any way to protect pop freighters from kamikaze with other freighters?
And if so how?

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And if so how?

Just have those scouts with cargo pod where your freighters are. Those scouts will work as a chaff against missile ships with the primary battle order "bombers/freighters". Obviously they'll also protect your bombers.

But if there are more enemies on the battle board, then the best protection for your freighters/bombers is not being there. The second best is you try to out-init enemies' ships, to destroy them before they fire on your freightes/bombers. A shredder for chaff-shredders can be used for that, OFC with the hope it will move right on the battle board.

BR, Iztok

[Updated on: Wed, 25 February 2009 02:40]

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DaYng1 wrote on Wed, 25 February 2009 05:18

Is there such a thing as freighter chaff? Is there any way to protect pop freighters from kamikaze with other freighters? And if so how?

By having other, less valuable freighters present that take the hits first. You'll need to make those "sacrificial" freighters (most unarmed ships with cargo capacity should work) more attractive to enemy weaponry than your valuable ones.

You can use the StarsCalc to check for attractiveness ratios against missiles (or beams) and design accordingly. Testbedding to check things actually work ok is also advisable.

As others have pointed out, freighter protection is a tricky issue. Many players use lightly armed, fast ships (such as Galleons or even Nubians) with orders to Disengage to improve the odds.

[Updated on: Wed, 25 February 2009 05:32]

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bigcanuknaz wrote on Thu, 26 February 2009 02:42

Mind you this kind of a ship is expensive, compared to your normal freighter. But it may be worth it for certain circumstances, for example the IS orgy, or at least the forward part of that orgy.

Expensive yes, this kind of APC you won't be using for your main orgy ship, that needs to be close to dirt cheap since you'll be building LOTS of them.
Brings me to the second point: it will take up another design slot ... But of course so will freighter chaff.

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bigcanuknaz wrote on Thu, 26 February 2009 02:42

Mind you this kind of a ship is expensive

More that you can think off. If you're going that way with an IS you can easily end with 5 cargo designs:
- "regular" cheap Super Freighter you've built early in the game to grow and hold the orgy. At the end you'll have ~200 ships.
- fast expensive SF (warp-10 engine) for moving pop from that (or these) orgy(es) around and balancing minerals over large distances. Depending on the size of your empire you can end with several dozens.
- freighter chaff,
- combat freighter-galleon and
- Tachion scanner galleon you've built late mid-game.

Those designs make BIIIG dent in 16 available design slots. You'd need them all, but there's no way you can afford having them all. Now what design you'd give up?

BR, Iztok

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bigcanuknaz wrote on Sat, 28 February 2009 04:10

1. IS10 superfreighter for main orgy. I know it is expensive

Did you check its price? Mine is about a half of the beam nub or BB, and I'd need about 200 of them - 150 for orgy, 50 for cargo duty. IMO if one can sacrifice 100 serious warships just for the orgy, there's no point of playing. He's already won.

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iztok wrote on Mon, 02 March 2009 09:25

IMO if one can sacrifice 100 serious warships just for the orgy, there's no point of playing. He's already won.

Perhaps in the smaller galaxies, but not in the larger...

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