Micha wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 09:10

I was actually just waiting if there would be more comments about the game balance etc. That could influence my choice of PRT ... Playing level of players joining could make a difference as well. mch

Fair enough, as I said I will post the players list within the next couple of days... that should give you a better idea of level

as far as seeing the individual races... that is my privilege

dj

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OK Guys, thats it... no more submissions please the universe is full (so to speak)
regards,
dj

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[Updated on: Wed, 05 March 2008 09:48]

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vonKreedon wrote on Mon, 25 February 2008 12:32

Now if Micha does take AR that would make things very interesting. Everyone knows where he is and someone could try to quickly run up there and take out his SB. The victory condition is to colonize Micha's HW, correct? There is no time constraint on this, no, "Must colonize and hold for x turns?"

An agreement by the underdogs to take our the top dog early is a good idea, but it is unlikely to happen. To send a fleet across the universe gives Micha too much time to prepare a response. And no one is going to send such a fleet without at least one colonizer. There is also an incentive to backstab especially by a SS to covertly colonize that HW even if everyone agrees not to colonize it.

To survive the initial wars, the underdogs are likely to be -f or HG. The Host has time to develop, at least 30+ turns - more likely 50+ turns before there are any serious threats. The Host environment is ideal for AR play and is, thus, Micha's best option in my opinion.

I would guess that Micha is testing AR designs that would give him Nubians very early on, probably by turn 50 or so. Even co-operatively, the underdogs will not get Nubians until 60+ turns. It will give Micha enough time to take space, with enough space, the Host AR can not be beaten even if one of the underdogs is also AR.

So unless Micha is restricted from taking AR, there is a good chance that the underdogs will not be able to take down the Host. With any other PRT, it is almost a certainty the Host can be taken down unless Micha is very very good

Robert

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Einherjock wrote on Thu, 28 February 2008 11:01

donjon wrote on Thu, 28 February 2008 06:55 Einher Race OK (what is your autohost username?) My Autohost username is Einherjock -Einherjock

yeah... silly me

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AR does look like a good option for the 'stumbling block' race, as does any race that is strong in the end game - it's reasonable for him to assume his start will be a bit safer and easier than the other players. I'd be seriously considering IS if I were Micha. AR might suffer a bit from the *acute* corner start (starting in a corner is bad for AR, and that's with a 90^ arc of planets to explore. In a triange, he may have a smaller still (maybe he should make the host give him a sample universe so he can understand the impact on his first 20 years.)

Disagree with the assumption he could get nubians at 2450 *and* that it'd take the other races to 2460. I do agree it's possible to get nubians at 2450, I just disagree that the other races would take longer. Why? The other races can tech trade (I'm assuming here that Micha cannot (or simply will not) deal with the predator races) which should lead them to nubians faster even though their economies might not be as strong. Micha will have to research his own support techs.

If you want an AR Micha, let me know, I can give you a very cruel one to modify to your liking

Or you could take a -f IS and try to eat everyone.

[Updated on: Thu, 28 February 2008 18:23]

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Dogthinkers wrote on Thu, 28 February 2008 18:23

Disagree with the assumption he could get nubians at 2450 *and* that it'd take the other races to 2460. I do agree it's possible to get nubians at 2450, I just disagree that the other races would take longer. Why? The other races can tech trade (I'm assuming here that Micha cannot (or simply will not) deal with the predator races) which should lead them to nubians faster even though their economies might not be as strong. Micha will have to research his own support techs.

Yes, I agree that the predators COULD get to Nubians before Micha, but it depends on how many "aggressive" races we get at the beginning. I think there will be at least one or two, which means a war or two. The mid line Habs and closeness of the HW is just too ripe for early wars of aggression - especially the HW take downs and you just do not know when those cloak SS ships will show up over your HW

I guess I don't see the predator alliances being able to commit to such research under a very real threat of attack.

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Dogthinkers wrote on Fri, 29 February 2008 09:53

Or you could take a -f IS and try to eat everyone.

Funny, I was thinking SD was looking good for the blocking race. Get the exploding MFs out into the big empty spaces early to block an early cloaked attack and then go all hyper aggressive/expand south through the same MFs and cut a path through the middle of the universe early ... basically saying "You shall not pass!"

[Updated on: Fri, 29 February 2008 17:35]

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Hi ,

lets see if we could kick Micha out of the univers


ccmaster

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All underlings are in and have good (from my standpoint) races...
we are just waiting on Micha's submission

Check out LSD if you want to join an intermediate game... this one is closed.

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Hiya,

I expect I will need the weekend.

I intend to modify the habs of the homeworlds so that all are centered (when working with immunities it could actually be anywhere in the range)

I also have noted that rarely, if ever, is the medium universe the published size of 1200 ly across, so i'm working out a method to push out the universe to the max in order to place the largest equilateral triangle within it. I think I've got a handle on that now.

This, of course will allow more spacing between the lessers and to the edges.

Anyway, I'm on task, and you guys will just have to be patient

You'll get your chance to beat on Micha

regards,
dj

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fourAces wrote on Tue, 11 March 2008 08:23

What is the status of this game? When it will start?

Good question
I'm still trying to find a seed... I got one that was close... but cramped up too many players in one corner of the triangle...

So I'm still hunting for a seed... then when that is done I need to normalize the homeworlds...

I ran quite a few scenarios this weekend, found none to my satisfaction, but I haven't given up hope...

when will it start? hmmm, likely I will have the game to Ron by the weekend coming...

please be patient...

(btw: if i find a seed that places the homeworlds reasonably, i will go to maim and ask for help to normalize, and fix the mc's... i don't want the mc's to be a hinderance)

regards,
les

[Updated on: Tue, 11 March 2008 11:58]

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Hi Guys,

Well, I found a universe, the host file has been passed off to Wumpus for some mods, (MCs and centered habs) He said he will have it back to me by Monday, I will then push it on to Ron

Just in case you were wondering...

regards,
dj

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donjon wrote on Fri, 14 March 2008 14:35

the host file has been passed off to Wumpus for some mods, (MCs and centered habs) He said he will have it back to me by Monday, I will then push it on to Ron

Hi everyone,

While considering the changes to the MCs, I noticed a problem that donjon may not have taken into account - I'll send him the files modified per the simple version of his directions, but I think there's a detail which still needs to be corrected.

I don't know if Donjon intends to have the starting year be 2400 or 2401 - if 2400, then please be aware the year 2400 M files you get will NOT include the changes I make (as these are only being done in the HST file, and thus won't "appear" until 2401). This just means that the climate and MC data you read in your 2400 turn file may be inaccurate. The climate element is just a minor irritation - everyone has (per the rules) every climate parameter centred or immune anyway. The MC thing is slightly more significant - the HST file will calculate the new (2401) turn correctly (IE using the modified MCs), however, the data you see in 2400 will be wrong - including in particular the projected mining rates. However, given that you'll presumably have enough surface minerals lying around to tide you over for one year's production, even this should be irrelevant for everyone's initial planning.

Donjon, if you're around, please drop by IRC (otherwise I'll send you an email shortly).


see you and enjoy

-- Wumpus

Edit 16.3.2008 17:34 CET: No race in the game is impacted by the changes which had me worried, so that's a moot point. HST file will be on the way back to donjon right after this is posted

[Updated on: Sun, 16 March 2008 12:35]

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Hi People,

OK, I've submitted the game to Ron.

I have a slight embellishment from what Wumpus said above.

This is a remapped game, which means that all planets are not where they were in the original gen...

This means that all players must move all of their ships on the first turn, either to their homeworld, or a close by star; then make sure you save & submit (ctrl A.)

When you open your movefile the first time you will note the following bad memories (chuckle)
1. Boranium MCs are at 30 on hw.
2. Germanium MCs are at 30 on hw.
3. Your habs are not centered if you have an immunity.

As I say, these are bad memories...
When you open your next turn (after the gen for 2401) you will note
1. Boranium MCs are much nicer.
2. Germanium MCs are much nicer.
3. Your habs are totally centered.

And this is the way it will stay until the end of the game

Now, we need to be patient and wait for Ron to put up the game.

Make sure you thank Wumpus for his help on this one... without his help I was definitely lost.

regards,
dj

[Updated on: Mon, 17 March 2008 18:02]

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donjon wrote on Mon, 17 March 2008 23:00

Make sure you thank Wumpus for his help on this one... without his help I was definitely lost.

Thanks Wumpus!

donjon, you too of course.

mch

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Hrr.. I just got the HST file from Donjon again, apparently he didn't want one of the planets modified after all (presumably because it's the protagonists HW?)

However, I'm probably not going to be able to do this until Friday - off to work shortly, and already have other things on tonight and tomorrow night...

EDIT 19.3. 19:21 CET: OK, had time to do it quickly tonight... enjoy! Now... the pub calls

[Updated on: Wed, 19 March 2008 14:21]

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