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This is a ranked game for Beginners/Intermediates:

A remapped medium dense universe, the universe mapped into the shape of an equilateral triangle...
               H
              ***
             *****
            *******
           *********
          ***********
         *************
        ***************
       *****************
      *******************
     *********************
    1**2**3**4***5**6**7**8


The game will be defined with the following specifiers: ABBS

The super-host, that is me, donjon, will receive the race files, build the universe, and award rank credits and demerits.

The host, Micha will be playing as the protagonist in the "H" position. The other players will play down at the bottom where all underlings should be Smile

The Host can do whatever he sees fit in order to protect his position(without regenning ofc) the players can do whatever they see fit to take over the Host's position (and when they do eliminate him from his homeworld and colonize it; they will win.)

There are the following strictures on races:
There can be No CA races!
There can be No PP races!
and JOAT will not be allowed to take NAS...

Due to the nature of this universe, you can expect homeworlds of the underlings to be relatively close, that is, between 130 and 140 lightyears. (This is the reason PP is banned)

Of course, the host may choose any race he sees as appropriate.

All players must take centered habs, this means you may shrink or expand, (or make immune) a hab value, but you MAY NOT shift it to the left or the right.

There will be no pregame alliances, however, during the game you may establish alliances... just remember there is only one player that can win Smile

Standard cheat disclaimers stand: Only split fleet dodge and chaff are allowed.

Likely the best backstabber will win Pirate

If you are interested send me (donjon at shc dot edu dot bz) your racefile and password.


[Updated on: Fri, 22 February 2008 09:34]

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What an intruiging setup!

What size/density would this game use? I suppose what I'm really interested in is how many planets would there be around each HW so I can plan my race design accordingly. Also, would that density be uniform from bottom to top? (Apologies - I don't know much surrounding the mechanism of moving planets around to know this). That raises a second question - what would happen to an IT's second planet with this setup?

Thanks!

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donjon wrote on Fri, 22 February 2008 15:32

The Host can do whatever he sees fit in order to protect his position(without regenning ofc)

You mean in-game, or also out-of-game? Shocked



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Re: Reach For The Top Fri, 22 February 2008 14:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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m.a@stars wrote on Fri, 22 February 2008 13:30

donjon wrote on Fri, 22 February 2008 15:32

The Host can do whatever he sees fit in order to protect his position(without regenning ofc)

You mean in-game, or also out-of-game? Shocked


Do you mean like sending a hit squad out to secure his position against a player who is potentially going to ursurp his position? Nana nana bubu

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donjon wrote on Fri, 22 February 2008 20:37

m.a@stars wrote on Fri, 22 February 2008 13:30

donjon wrote on Fri, 22 February 2008 15:32

The Host can do whatever he sees fit in order to protect his position(without regenning ofc)

You mean in-game, or also out-of-game? Shocked


Do you mean like sending a hit squad out to secure his position against a player who is potentially going to ursurp his position? Nana nana bubu

No. More like setting his orders for the next 5 turns and then a gentime of 30 minutes, or directly force-genning them. Or banning his attackers, or... Twisted Evil



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Starsaddict wrote on Fri, 22 February 2008 13:25

What an intruiging setup!

What size/density would this game use? I suppose what I'm really interested in is how many planets would there be around each HW so I can plan my race design accordingly. Also, would that density be uniform from bottom to top? (Apologies - I don't know much surrounding the mechanism of moving planets around to know this). That raises a second question - what would happen to an IT's second planet with this setup? Thanks!


The size is medium, the density is dense... however, with the remapping it will appear that the planets are packed or close to it Smile

Secondary worlds for IT races will be placed closer to the boss. (but still a reasonable distance away.)

regards,
dj


[Updated on: Fri, 22 February 2008 14:41]

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m.a@stars wrote on Fri, 22 February 2008 13:39

donjon wrote on Fri, 22 February 2008 20:37

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m.a@stars[/email] wrote on Fri, 22 February 2008 13:30]
donjon wrote on Fri, 22 February 2008 15:32

The Host can do whatever he sees fit in order to protect his position(without regenning ofc)

You mean in-game, or also out-of-game? Shocked


Do you mean like sending a hit squad out to secure his position against a player who is potentially going to ursurp his position? Nana nana bubu

No. More like setting his orders for the next 5 turns and then a gentime of 30 minutes, or directly force-genning them. Or banning his attackers, or... Twisted Evil


Ah, I see, no, the host will not regen or forcegen or ban without consultation with me. Micha is a good guy and he knows he cannot win, he knows that he is the impediment for you guys Smile

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donjon wrote on Fri, 22 February 2008 20:45

Ah, I see, no, the host will not regen or forcegen or ban without consultation with me. Micha is a good guy and he knows he cannot win, he knows that he is the impediment for you guys Smile

Phew. I'm sure the underlings will be relieved. Rolling Eyes

Does that mean he'll lose rank too? Twisted Evil



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signs up myself and one friend..will send race files this weekend..hopefully this time we both get in:P

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Re: Reach For The Top Fri, 22 February 2008 14:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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m.a@stars wrote on Fri, 22 February 2008 13:47

Does that mean he'll lose rank too? Twisted Evil


No, it does not... If he provides a good challenge he also may be awarded a rank increment Smile

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Re: Reach For The Top Sun, 24 February 2008 16:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Micha will win comfortably from this position, if he wants to. Certainly it's a superior starting position... And the opponents all have similar habs, which puts a big cramp on cooperation.

To a significant extent he will have to 'play to lose' for this game to work out.

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Dogthinkers wrote on Mon, 25 February 2008 08:54

And the opponents all have similar habs, which puts a big cramp on cooperation.



What about HE?

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Re: Reach For The Top Mon, 25 February 2008 05:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dogthinkers wrote on Sun, 24 February 2008 22:54

Micha will win comfortably from this position, if he wants to. Certainly it's a superior starting position... And the opponents all have similar habs, which puts a big cramp on cooperation.

To a significant extent he will have to 'play to lose' for this game to work out.

Hm, toss in some more experienced players, some diplomatic geniuses (sp?), dangerous combinations of PRTs, techtrade, ... and I see myself in a lot of trouble!
Without the centered hab to cramp cooperation my AR has the same chance as a snowball in hell!

mch

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Re: Reach For The Top Mon, 25 February 2008 05:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Micha wrote on Mon, 25 February 2008 11:11

Without the centered hab to cramp cooperation my AR has the same chance as a snowball in hell!

Did I just say AR? Twisted Evil

mch aka snowball

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Re: Reach For The Top Mon, 25 February 2008 08:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh I am soooo tempted by this. I still rank as intermediate in the ranking system. But am a bit Stars busy already.

I would say that Micha could win - but it would not be easy.
As long as Micha is strong then the best diplomatic move is to ally with some/all of the underdogs. (not saying that there would be no conflict - but in most cases the benifits of mutual support will outweigh the benefits gained through conflict).

Its only after a bit - when it looks like Micha could fall to a individual (or small group) when the confict will really flare up. The weaker Micha gets the more the squabbling will increase.

Humm how do I sell an extra 1/2 hour a day playing stars to the wife Laughing



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Re: Reach For The Top Mon, 25 February 2008 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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joseph wrote on Mon, 25 February 2008 14:36

I would say that Micha could win - but it would not be easy.

Hum, that would require beating all underlings ...
Quote:

As long as Micha is strong then the best diplomatic move is to ally with some/all of the underdogs. (not saying that there would be no conflict - but in most cases the benifits of mutual support will outweigh the benefits gained through conflict).

Its only after a bit - when it looks like Micha could fall to a individual (or small group) when the confict will really flare up. The weaker Micha gets the more the squabbling will increase.

That's a possible scenario indeed, me loosing ground to a strong team of underlings (all or the few that arise from the first slaughter separating the wheat from the chaff).
In such I case I do hope that after I'm as good as gone that the underlings *do* fight eachother, hence donjon stressing only one player can win (the one living on my HW) ...

Quote:

Humm how do I sell an extra 1/2 hour a day playing stars to the wife Laughing

You can post that question in the Bar. Wink

mch

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Re: Reach For The Top Mon, 25 February 2008 12:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If Micha can sow discord among the underlings he should be able to win. For one thing, the underlings are all close to each other and have the same 100% points in the their habs; Micha is all by himself at the top of the pyramid AND can have any hab he wants, and could even be a CA according to the rules. So Micha can grab more planets and potentially use them better than any of the underlings.

Now if Micha does take AR that would make things very interesting. Everyone knows where he is and someone could try to quickly run up there and take out his SB.

The victory condition is to colonize Micha's HW, correct? There is no time constraint on this, no, "Must colonize and hold for x turns?"

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Re: Reach For The Top Mon, 25 February 2008 13:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lets forget that... The host (Micha) cannot win, by definition, and is well aware of the fact that he cannot win, he is playing as a stumbling block for the other players.

regards,
dj

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Re: Reach For The Top Mon, 25 February 2008 14:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sign me in Twisted Evil

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... the underlings ... have the same 100% points in the their habs ...

dunno - can take imm and can narrow/widen to taste.

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Re: Reach For The Top Tue, 26 February 2008 17:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Reach For The Top Tue, 26 February 2008 18:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Donjon...you might think about editing the HW habs as any player choosing an immunity is likely to not have that hab centered for their HW.

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Re: Reach For The Top Wed, 27 February 2008 09:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gible wrote on Tue, 26 February 2008 17:40

Donjon...you might think about editing the HW habs as any player choosing an immunity is likely to not have that hab centered for their HW.


This is a thought which i will consider after looking at the races.
regards,
les

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Re: Reach For The Top Wed, 27 February 2008 09:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have 5 players submitting races right now... I have not evaluated their races but I suspect they are OK... I am sort of tied into midsemester stuff right at the moment... I will report and put up the player list within the next couple of days.

btw: I need a racefile from Micha Twisted Evil

regards,
dj

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Re: Reach For The Top Wed, 27 February 2008 10:10 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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donjon wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 15:49

btw: I need a racefile from Micha Twisted Evil

Don't I get to see all the other race files first? Wink Wink

I was actually just waiting if there would be more comments about the game balance etc. That could influence my choice of PRT ... Playing level of players joining could make a difference as well. Wink

mch

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