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HE mini-coloniser hull - bug.

Mon, 29 October 2007 20:08

Soobie

Officer Cadet 3rd Year

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Registered: May 2007
Location: Australia

Anyone else have the experience that the minicoloniser hull will occassionally determine the hab and pop of another race's colonised planet it is orbiting if there is no orbital?

That is, a minicol with nothing in the mech slot occassionally acts like it has a batscanner if there is no orbital.

I don't have time just now to test it thoroughly (eg: with items in the mech slot, or other situations when it does/doesn't occur, or if it happens with other hulls) at the moment.

Cheers,
S.

[Updated on: Mon, 29 October 2007 20:09]

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Re: HE mini-coloniser hull - bug.

Tue, 30 October 2007 05:06

Micha

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I assume it's not a planet you scanned earlier? IOW showing "old" data? Is it really accurate? You didn't drop pop?

mch

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Re: HE mini-coloniser hull - bug.

Tue, 30 October 2007 05:31

Soobie

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Micha wrote on Tue, 30 October 2007 19:36

I assume it's not a planet you scanned earlier? IOW showing "old" data? Is it really accurate? You didn't drop pop?

mch

I hadn't previously scanned the planet, so no old data - speaking of which, I just noticed I have min concs and hab data. On first glance I failed to notice min concs. I have left a minicol sitting over one planet and watched the population increase.

No pop drop in this instance.

I can send through the .h and .m files for multiple turns if you like - you'll see what I mean.

OK ok .. somehow found some time I didn't think I had. It seems to be something to do with the HE PRT and not the hull. Put a ANY SCOUT hull with the gen slot filled or not and without a scanner and 2 turns over another player colony in a test and I have the min concs, hab and pop. HE seems to have an inbuilt bat scanner that works when there is no orbital.

Cheers,
S.

[Updated on: Tue, 30 October 2007 05:51]

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Re: HE mini-coloniser hull - bug.

Tue, 30 October 2007 14:25

m.a@stars

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Wow, this looks like a particularly interesting flavor of the old "scannerless scan" feature! Sherlock

Can you do more tests, perhaps fully determine how/when it works? Rolling Eyes

So many Stars, so few Missiles!

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Re: HE mini-coloniser hull - bug.

Tue, 30 October 2007 16:10

Ptolemy

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As far as I know this has been working for HE for some time. I have seen HE players habitually parking mini-colonizers over inhabited worlds - CCMaster always does it.

Ptolemy

Though we often ask how and why, we must also do to get the answers to the questions.

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Re: HE mini-coloniser hull - bug.

Fri, 02 November 2007 20:07

bigcanuknaz

Officer Cadet 1st Year

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Registered: July 2004

yup.

I have noticed the same thing.

I did not do tests to determine when the scan happened and when it did not, but it seemed to depend upon a battle, or perhaps just on another ship in orbit.

naz

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Re: HE mini-coloniser hull - bug.

Wed, 28 November 2007 02:37

ccmaster

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Hi all ,

It is not a bug of the Mini-Colonizer Hull .
I wonder why Ptolemy and Micha have not give you the answere but well here it comes .

1. You need no scanner to can a Planet not defended with some kind of station . This means you get the following ifomations of a planet when you have a ship there :

- If the Planet is not kolonized . No Habs or Mineralconzentration.

- If the Planet is owned by a other player and no station of any kind .
You get the info about the Pop on the Planet the mineralconzentration and the Habs of the Planet even without a scanner .

- If the Planet is ownd by a other player and he has a station .
you get the Info who own the planet and that there is a station , also the kind of station .

@ Ptolemy

The main reason that my minikolonizer are at every planet is that they look lor incoming fleets , best way to do if you have no Pen Scanner . ( and for HE real cheap Wink

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Re: HE mini-coloniser hull - bug.

Wed, 05 December 2007 15:03

Micha

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ccmaster wrote on Wed, 28 November 2007 08:37

I wonder why Ptolemy and Micha have not give you the answere but well here it comes .

Maybe because Micha didn't know! Wink

Thanks for the new info. Smile

mch

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Re: HE mini-coloniser hull - bug.

Thu, 06 December 2007 04:40

Soobie

Officer Cadet 3rd Year

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Location: Australia

It does not appear to work for all races all the time. For example, IS and SS appear to have a random chance of not being 'scanned' if the hull does not have a scanner onboard.

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