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Yet another order of events detail question

Tue, 27 February 2007 01:53

gwellman

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Within the single item "Waypoint zero unload tasks", many players could be unloading at many different planets throughout the galaxy. In what order do these take place? (And same question for waypoint one.)

I could imagine that they could take place in the order of the planets in the xy file (e.g. left to right), or in random planet order. At any given planet, I know loading is in random player order (so you have a random winner in the race to load minerals) and I know that multiple invasions at the same planet at the same time can yield confusing results, but ignore that - I'm just asking in what planet order the unload tasks are run.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Yet another order of events detail question

Tue, 27 February 2007 06:12

m.a@stars

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Hm, I would rather ask how would you even know that unloadings had happened in one order or another. Sherlock

In other words, just exactly how would the exact "unload ordering" affect other activities at all? Confused

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Re: Yet another order of events detail question

Tue, 27 February 2007 10:54

gwellman

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I can think of one other thing that would be affected by the planet order of unload events. Believe me, it's not trivial. That's why I'm asking. Twisted Evil

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Re: Yet another order of events detail question

Tue, 27 February 2007 11:28

LEit

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First manual loads/unloads happen, I'm pretty sure it's random by player, then in order they were done while doing the orders.

Then waypoint 0 unloads happen, combat does not happen yet in fleet# order. I'm not sure about player# order, the only way I can think of to test it is to have two players both try to unload to a packet/salvage pile/3rd fleet, and see who gets to dump their cargo to it.

Then any combat/colonization from the manual or waypoint 0 unloads happens. (colonization is treated as combat I think)

Then waypoint 0 loads happen in fleet # order. I'm not sure about player#, but testing it should be easy, just have multiple races able to load from the same location.

The rest of the turn plays out, production, battles, etc.

Then waypoint 1 unloads happen, combat does not happen yet.

Then any combat/colonization from waypoint 1 unloads happens.

Then waypoint 0 loads happen.

- LEit

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Re: Yet another order of events detail question

Tue, 27 February 2007 12:40

gwellman

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Ah, so waypoint unloads for a given player are in *fleet* order? Interesting, and controllable Twisted Evil

Actually, I just realized that technically, what I need to know is not actually the order in which unload events happen across planets but is instead the planet order in which ground combat resolution occurs. I doubt fleet number would affect that, so it's either by planet number, or random. Unless I'm wrong Confused

The thing that this affects is tech trading and/or tech capture.

[Updated on: Tue, 27 February 2007 12:44]

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Re: Yet another order of events detail question

Tue, 27 February 2007 12:58

m.a@stars

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LEit wrote on Tue, 27 February 2007 17:28

have two players both try to unload to a packet/salvage pile/3rd fleet, and see who gets to dump their cargo to it.

Interesting. I hadn't realized that one would be affected. Sherlock

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Re: Yet another order of events detail question

Tue, 27 February 2007 13:02

m.a@stars

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gwellman wrote on Tue, 27 February 2007 18:40

technically, what I need to know is not actually the order in which unload events happen across planets but is instead the planet order in which ground combat resolution occurs.

Ah ha...

Combat resolution involves a lot more than just increasing figures in a mineral pile. Teleport

I bet it is by planet order, itself easily testable. Sherlock

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Re: Yet another order of events detail question

Tue, 27 February 2007 14:48

LEit

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gwellman wrote on Tue, 27 February 2007 12:40

planet order in which ground combat resolution occurs. I doubt fleet number would affect that, so it's either by planet number, or random. Unless I'm wrong Confused

You're wrong Razz