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| Re: How much should one pay a CA per % point of terraforming |
Mon, 16 October 2006 02:41   |
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 knightpraetor |
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ah ok..well i plan to ban them the next game, but i didn't realize they were quite this overpowered till it came out naturally. so i figured i might as well offer to buy some terraforming..till an alliance forms to crush them
but i meant if they wish to be paid in minerals
[Updated on: Mon, 16 October 2006 02:42] Report message to a moderator
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| Re: How much should one pay a CA per % point of terraforming |
Mon, 16 October 2006 22:16 |
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One thing to think about - if they can terraform beyond your (expected) abilities that is more valuable.
If you've only got 1600kt to play with, you are better off not buying any terra off them at all... Once again - you don't want to be caught short on minerals if a fight breaks out near you. Also those 1600kt are your key to your mineral fountain - until you have a decent number of remote miners you probably can't afford to give away minerals for resources. (I'm assuming you are talking about your AR race.)
I'd offer tech levels of value around 50 to 100 points resources per tick of terraforming instead.
If he *really* needs minerals badly, then offer to buy the terraformers themselves... 
[Updated on: Mon, 16 October 2006 22:18] Report message to a moderator
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| Re: How much should one pay a CA per % point of terraforming |
Tue, 17 October 2006 00:56 |
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Just use the minerals to build bombers and get rid of 'em.
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| Re: How much should one pay a CA per % point of terraforming |
Tue, 17 October 2006 13:56 |
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| knightpraetor |
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that's my big problem, how do people value minerals? I assume you don't just calculate it from MA conversion; should i use the amount of mines that i could build with the saved resources?
so take the 100 saved resources, divide by the # of resources to build a mine, and multiply by the number of minerals that it would produce in 1 turn. would that be how much the terraforming is saving me in mineral value? with mineral concentrations taken at the planet being terraformed.
[Updated on: Tue, 17 October 2006 13:57] Report message to a moderator
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| Re: How much should one pay a CA per % point of terraforming |
Sun, 22 October 2006 18:25 |
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| JasonC wrote on Fri, 20 October 2006 06:36 |
Alliances don't form to crush them. Alliances form to glom onto them and get free terraforming themselves, making for entire teams that buy no terra against alliances that lack one and therefore have to pay for it all. CAs are a broken race in balance terms, and diplomacy does not in practice correct the problem.
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@ Sorry Jason but Alliances are formed to crush Ca because they are a broken race in balance terms , saw it in the most games they was around ... get some OA and kill them is a good plan .
@ Knight
Dont buy terraforming from a Ca if you get his enemy the OA's will soon or later make your Planets Red again you should always try to get OA ships from him and use your own terraforming , the ships ( even if he becomes your enemy )you can still use even against him .
ccmaster
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| Re: How much should one pay a CA per % point of terraforming |
Mon, 23 October 2006 05:20 |
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| Kotk | 
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| JasonC wrote on Mon, 23 October 2006 02:34 |
Diplomacy does not balance the excessive strength of the CA PRT.
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Most people agree with it and so CA is banned (or gravely crippled) in most games.
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