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Newbie Game + Question about concept Mon, 24 July 2006 19:01 Go to next message
Azrail is currently offline Azrail

 
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Ok, I just come across this great site.
I have a lot of time which I want to dedicate to some Stars! playing.

I want to run tiny/small game with 3-4 people playing.
I do not see such game open here, and want someone to help me getting start. Do I really need to send email to reserve space on autohost?

And, the concept:

I want all players to design races for the other players. The main thing is that there should not be any leftover points (+-20 is ok I think).
Than race of player 1 go to player 2, race of player 2 go to player 3 ... race of player N go to player 1. It should be a lot of fun design worst race ever and than play some really weird setup.

Please tell me what do you think and if this worth trying to setup and play.

Thanks.

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Re: Newbie Game + Question about concept Mon, 24 July 2006 22:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dogthinkers is currently offline Dogthinkers

 
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I think only about 50% of the game slots are in use, so unless 50 other games all start up in the next week I don't think you need to reserve a slot Wink

It's a novel idea... I reckon I could make some VERY bad races if I tried, lol...

Here's a first attempt:
AR
1 in 127 hab, 10% PGR
IFE, NRSE, ARM, OBRM, GR, LSP, UR, BET, MA, RS
19 points to defenses
divisor 7
all expensive

So... Nice divisor, but appalling tech and good luck finding any new greens... ARM+OBRM = no decent miners... No cheap spacedocks on all those reds you are going to have to colonise... Low start pop AND low growth... Generalised research will make the pain of energy expensive last all the longer...


Here's another...
PP
1 in 93
17% PGR
IFE, NRSE, CE, ARM, OBRM, ISB, NAS, GR, LSP, UR, BET, MA, RS
20 points to defenses
1/2500 pop eff
5/25/25 3g factories
5/15/5 mines
all cheap, exp start@3

Have fun finding minerals... Factories are only 3g, but it'll take 50 years for a new factory to pay if off the resource cost... Lots of LRTs to play with... Tech is cheap at least, giving this race a fighting chance, at least in a non-tiny universe (so it can make use of the two starting worlds.)

In a small universe I guess a weaker race would be to change to HE, take rad immune, left shift other habs (1 in 34) and up PGR to 20% (40%)... Might find another world to move too, but still that'll be at half max capacity... I guess the high PGR might make colonising reds a bit too plausible though. Hmmm, designing truely awfull races is harder than I thought.

...

And since I'm having fun, yet another awfull race:
PP
Tri-immune, 3% PGR
IFE, NRSE, TT, ARM, OBRM, ISB, NAS, GR, LSP, UR, BET, MA, RS
1 in 700 pop eff
5/5/21 3g factories
25/2/25 mines
All cheap, exp@3
27 points to min concs

This will will generate piles of minerals (which if found in the same universe as the above, would actually make it a good race, for trade.) Factories pay off in 10 years, which isn't so terrible... The killer though is the 3% growth. This race had better conquer the universe real early, because it's resource curve will flatline early. Decided to remove CE because the cheaper engines might have actually been usefull... Kept OBRM because it's never going to hit population caps, so might as well deny the diplomatic ability to build decent remotes.


[Updated on: Mon, 24 July 2006 23:34]

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Re: Newbie Game + Question about concept Tue, 25 July 2006 02:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Micha

 

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Azrail wrote on Tue, 25 July 2006 01:01

Ok, I just come across this great site.

Welcome!

Quote:

I have a lot of time which I want to dedicate to some Stars! playing.

Lucky you! My Stars! time has been diminishing at a scary pace. Sad

Quote:

... It should be a lot of fun design worst race ever and than play some really weird setup.

Please tell me what do you think and if this worth trying to setup and play.

3-4 people might not be hard to find.
Though you might want to look better in the idea, with really bad races you might end up with an incredibly slow and boring game. Struggeling 50 years to get yak DDs ... Maybe play with bigger jumps per turn ... Or maybe a fast game is one race is not that bad and can beat the others in 10 years. <g> It's all about balancing the concept ...
Maybe let the original designers leave 100 RW points which the new emperor can use to make some adjustements ... (though races would need to be checked by a neutral party since changes could be made without touching the RW points).

mch


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BTW if it's only a game concept and not a real game proposition yet the place for this kind of thread is in the Bar. Wink

mch,
modaw


[Updated on: Tue, 25 July 2006 03:00]

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Re: Newbie Game + Question about concept Tue, 25 July 2006 04:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Azrail is currently offline Azrail

 
Civilian

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Thanks for all replies!

Well, several thoughts, cause I still like this idea:

1. Maybe AccBBS for this should be on?
2. Maybe play game with 3 years/turn, so at least sometime all will have opportunity to war Smile
3. I think the problem with LRT. ARM/OBRM should not be checked in the same time and no more than 4 LRT per race? Maybe this way it will produce more playable weak races?

By the way - I'd love to play with any of the races you design.
For example even AR with GR @ 75% tech but still not that bad PGR and good factor will be playable. I runned a small test agains computer - well, it is possiuble to win but require some luck Smile I MANAGED to find 1% green nearby.

As for place this in bar - well I think this is game proposition now:

I need 3-4 players to play in Small/Dense.

The game settings will be voted and concepts are described above.
The winner by dominance or voting.

Waiting on your replies.

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Re: Newbie Game + Question about concept Tue, 01 August 2006 03:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tgellan is currently offline tgellan

 
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I just stumbled over this old thread, could be of interest too:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.computer.stars/brow se_thread/thread/f07328bff36847ac/e9978a387dfe9a39?lnk=gst&a mp;a mp;q=is+race&rnum=3#e9978a387dfe9a39


[Updated on: Tue, 01 August 2006 03:13]

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Re: Newbie Game + Question about concept Tue, 01 August 2006 09:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JasonC is currently offline JasonC

 
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Err, I recommend shutting off a few of the obviously silly approaches to wasting points, if you try this. E.g. stipulate that the maximum number of LRTs is 5, say. Don't allow OBRM plus ARM. And perhaps stipulate that the net cheap techs maxes out at 2.

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Re: Newbie Game + Question about concept Mon, 18 September 2006 06:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Micha

 

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Status? Last post almost 2 months ago ... Will be locked if no further interest.

mch,
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Re: Newbie Game + Question about concept Sat, 23 September 2006 11:21 Go to previous message
Ashlyn is currently offline Ashlyn

 
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topic locked.

Sherlock
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