| Version jRC3 vs jRC4 (Re: New game concept - Diadochi Wars) |
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| AlexTheGreat wrote on Mon, 24 July 2006 07:54 |
A special Note: It is my understanding that AH accepts only players using Stars! 2.6 JRC4. If you are using something else then please download that patch level at http://starsautohost.org/files/stars26jrc4.zip. This is true even if you are using v2.70j (the commercial version) which was never patched to JRC4 - for anybody concerned about that, I believe that the only significant difference is that 2.6 has no audio.
Do you need to reenter the Stars! serial code if u switch from 2.7 to 2.6?
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As far as I know, Stars! version 2.6 JRC4 was created for hosting (server side) to fix certain defects. It accepts files from 2.7j, so you do not need to switch to 2.6 JRC4 client to submit turns.
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| Re: OT: Version jRC3 vs jRC4 (Re: New game concept - Diadochi Wars) |
Mon, 24 July 2006 06:00  |
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| Micha wrote on Mon, 24 July 2006 12:54 |
I found it was better to play with 2.6 jRC4 in order to prevent .x files to be found corrupt by AH when it wants to gen the game.
I have had it happen that a player using 2.6/2.7 jRC3 submitted a turn that was rejected by the .hst on AH. Opening that turn in 2.6 jRC4 indeed popped up the message that the .x file was corrupt. So if you use jRC4 you might not end up with a file that is rejected by AH, or at least get the notice sooner that your file got corrupted ...
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Well, I have both versions already installed. I just might forget smetimes to submit with JRC4 instead of JRC3. Would it be ok if I submit turn from JRC3 time to time? I think JRC4 should be a recommendation rather than a requirement - it is up to the player to watch for X file not corrupted.
(Such corruption never happened for me, but I know such thing may come at some moment  ).
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| Re: OT: Version jRC3 vs jRC4 (Re: New game concept - Diadochi Wars) |
Mon, 24 July 2006 06:21 |
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Just wondering, how did you manage to install 2 different versions??? Never tried it though, but would be nice to have i-patch and j-patch both on the same machine...
Will it work with same password and does it use the same configuration file?
Thanx
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| Re: OT: Version jRC3 vs jRC4 (Re: New game concept - Diadochi Wars) |
Mon, 24 July 2006 06:23 |
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| tgellan wrote on Mon, 24 July 2006 13:21 |
Just wondering, how did you manage to install 2 different versions??? Never tried it though, but would be nice to have i-patch and j-patch both on the same machine...
Will it work with same password and does it use the same configuration file?
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I do not know. I have JRC3 and JRC4 installed at the same time (both are patch "j"). I never tried i and j simultaneously.
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| Re: OT: Version jRC3 vs jRC4 (Re: New game concept - Diadochi Wars) |
Mon, 24 July 2006 06:30 |
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| Micha wrote on Mon, 24 July 2006 13:25 |
"it is up to the player" ... so he plays jRC3 and opens his own turn in jRC4 to check for corruption? So why not play in jRC4 immediately? Afterall if it turns out to be indeed corrupt you'll have to delete the .x file *completely* redo your turn, double the work ...
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You're right.
I always check the AH game page to see if turn is submitted ok: submit, wait for turn submit to appear on page... Would AH indicate corruption before turn gen? If corrupted, I would see it and make turn in JRC4, I guess.
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| Re: OT: Version jRC3 vs jRC4 (Re: New game concept - Diadochi Wars) |
Mon, 24 July 2006 06:50 |
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| Tomasoid wrote on Mon, 24 July 2006 12:30 |
Hi!
| Micha wrote on Mon, 24 July 2006 13:25 |
"it is up to the player" ... so he plays jRC3 and opens his own turn in jRC4 to check for corruption? So why not play in jRC4 immediately? Afterall if it turns out to be indeed corrupt you'll have to delete the .x file *completely* redo your turn, double the work ...
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You're right.
I always check the AH game page to see if turn is submitted ok: submit, wait for turn submit to appear on page... Would AH indicate corruption before turn gen? If corrupted, I would see it and make turn in JRC4, I guess.
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Ah, so by "it is up to the player" you mean the check if the turn shows "in". True, he should do that, however this gives a false sense of being "safe" since that check is only to see if the file arrived correctly, to see if there has nothing gone wrong with the upload itself. (Mind that I don't know the details of how the process actually works, this is only how *I* think/assume it works).
The check of the orders are corrupt or not is done right before the game gens. When the file is corrupt it is deleted and depending on the option in the host utility the game is put on hold or the game gens without those invalid orders ...
mch
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| Re: OT: Version jRC3 vs jRC4 (Re: New game concept - Diadochi Wars) |
Mon, 24 July 2006 07:01 |
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| Micha wrote on Mon, 24 July 2006 13:50 |
Ah, so by "it is up to the player" you mean the check if the turn shows "in". True, he should do that, however this gives a false sense of being "safe" since that check is only to see if the file arrived correctly, to see if there has nothing gone wrong with the upload itself. (Mind that I don't know the details of how the process actually works, this is only how *I* think/assume it works).
The check of the orders are corrupt or not is done right before the game gens. When the file is corrupt it is deleted and depending on the option in the host utility the game is put on hold or the game gens without those invalid orders ...
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Yep, that is what I meant. If what you say is correct, then I'll try to not forget to use JRC4 
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