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Welcome CC!
We have a full compliment of Empire races! w00t!
Empires:
Marduk
Mark
Sr Seven
Sergey
CCMaster

Universe will be Medium, Custom starting distances.
Sr Seven,Sergey & CCMaster please send me your votes/preferences for density & galaxy clumps.
CCMaster, please check the first post for empire race restrictions, and note that the -f position has been taken.(unless you're going to be -m as well )
Random events will be ON.
The Universe will be remapped so that the empire players are spread evenly near the outside. The PC player will take over all 11 of the pirate HW's and will be placed: 2 along each edge and 3 in the middlish. 100ly along the four edges will be no-empire frontier zones(read back for details)

Would like to have Empire race files and get the games files to Wumpus for fixing next week sometime(or the week after) as I'm on holiday then. And I'll be incommunicado for Easter.

Still seeking pirates! (Will always be seeking pirates ) All you need is a pirate race name and an opinion on RS.
Pirates:
Kelzar
Yoey
EDog
Coyote
Ptolemy

Pirate pricing system and starting ships are almost certainly decided! Empire players are advised to bolster their defenses quickly

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gible wrote on Wed, 12 April 2006 06:18

Sr Seven,Sergey & CCMaster please send me your votes/preferences for density & galaxy clumps.

Voting:
Galaxy: Med/Normal
Clumping: Yes

Empires<->Pirates ralations: enemy all time
Starting Pirates' JR ship: SFX for the first 10-15 years

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Would like to have Empire race files and get the games files to Wumpus for fixing next week sometime(or the week after) as I'm on holiday then. And I'll be incommunicado for Easter.

... will need final details on the settings to make some race tweaks. This race I am trying to field is damn hard to run!

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Pirate pricing system and starting ships are almost certainly decided! Empire players are advised to bolster their defenses quickly

Again, I would like to point out huge risks for the Empire HWs being easily raided by the Pirates early on *if* the Pirates have customized JR-ship (e.g. fast Pvt/Rogue)

See my vote above...

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It seems that Gible has come to a conclusion on the fleet design for Pirates. Yaaarr!

I'm sure that pirates would not broadcast their vital statistics to enemies. After all, No one is asking the Empires to send out fleet registries.

I am sure that the fleets will be modest and that pricing schemes will adequately moderate ship specs.

The point has been made that significant pirate presence at a fledgling HW could be devastating. Maybe not instantly fatal, but hampering growth so that economy is handicapped. Gible has mentioned many times that Pirates will be dieing regularly. That indicates that he is taking measures to make sure that they dont have a significant military advatage. That is enough for me.

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Send race files to me@me.net (substitute where obvious)

Universe will be Medium, Dense, No Clumping.

There was something else... but I gotta go teach now

Edit:
GreyMatter - are you playing? your voting for universe settings would seem to indicate wanting to play an empire, and you've previously said you wanted to play both but you never said "I will play X"...The empires are full but there are plenty of Pirates wanted, if you're keen(or even just curious).

On starting ships. The only reason I haven't nailed down the designs is I need the empire races in to judge the exact starting pirate tech levels. The JR is a Rogue design. If SFX tech is available I'll be gobsmacked.

[Updated on: Wed, 12 April 2006 21:16]

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I'm sure that pirates would not broadcast their vital statistics to enemies. After all, No one is asking the Empires to send out fleet registries.

At least no one is willing to pay my subscription fees. Maybe I can make do with advertising revenues. But if you want to know something about my empire, just ask - I'll come up with a fair (to me) and equitable (for me) price, I assure you! All payments must be in pure minerals, small ingots, no Robber Barons allowed.

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gible wrote on Wed, 12 April 2006 20:05

Edit: GreyMatter - are you playing? your voting for universe settings would seem to indicate wanting to play an empire,...

Yes, I am trying to adjust my crappy Empire based on the info you just provided...

I think, I will be in line for a Pirate spot later in the game

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Oh no! Now I'm going to have to adjust my race, since I made it specifically for 5 empires.

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[Updated on: Sun, 16 April 2006 13:51]

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Pirates wanted! PM me with you pirate race name(make sure it fits) and do you want RS?

Update!
I have all the empire races, I know who GreyMatter is I've sorting through emails, PM's and chat logs to find passwords etc and hopefully haven't mixed things up too much. Apologies if I'm asking for something below that you've already sent me, please send it again

Sr Seven: I need your race file password (I'm sure I had it but I can't put my finger on it)
Yoey,Ptolemy: I need your pirate race names.
Kelzar,Yoey,Ptolemy: Do you want RS?
Deadline: 2400 Wed/0000 Thurs GMT (midday Thurs my local time) or un-named pirates will be given names, and I'll roll a die for RS.(ditto for the remining pirate slots)

At about midday Thurs or when all pirate names/RS preferences (whichever is sooner and assuming I have Sr Seven's password) I'll create the game and send it off to Wumpus for fixing. Once he's done I'll send the files to Ron & request a forum. While we're waiting for the game page to go up, I'll announce the initial Pirate tech levels, do some testbeds to check the starting ships & prices and finally announce the initial prices.
2400 Pirates' starting ships will be built and design/cash specs sent to pirates. Rules/How to purchase ships/Pirate techs etc posted in game forum.
2401 Ships are transfered.
2402 Starting cash is loaded.
2403 Pirates are go!
2404 First purchase orders arrive

Keep those ideas for a lack of pirates coming I like them all, the only idea I've had so far is to give them each 1 pirate fleet and 2 race/ul passwords and let them have the battle board advantage.

To help encourage pirates, I'm also thinking of some bonus goals/other mentions I can hand out. biggest single haul, shortest lifespan , most G, biggest bribe, biggest buried treasure(dead pirates only). Other ideas welcome Many of these will need reporting, since I'm not about to go scouring through every game file looking for them. (and "1st HW raid" is not going to be awarded )

[Updated on: Mon, 17 April 2006 21:14]

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gible wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 02:29

I'll create the game and send it off to Wumpus for fixing.

Ahh, nothing happened yet, cool. I was out of circulation over the ultra-long weekend because some clever cookie came to work on Maundy Thursday with some cold or similar and left me in bed all the nice weekend... GRRR...!

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Once he's done I'll send the files to Ron & request a forum. While we're waiting for the game page to go up, I'll announce the initial Pirate tech levels, do some testbeds to check the starting ships & prices and finally announce the initial prices. 2400 Pirates' starting ships will be built and design/cash specs sent to pirates. Rules/How to purchase ships/Pirate techs etc posted in game forum. 2401 Ships are transfered. 2402 Starting cash is loaded. 2403 Pirates are go! 2404 First purchase orders arrive

There's no paticular reason to go this slowly; eg you could load the "starting cash" and transfer in the same turn.

Technically I can even make all of the pirate's starting equipment be ready and in their hands at whatever locations in 2400, but that's mainly a consideration that might be interesting for "next time", since it's a *lot* of work at the moment. Still, it's possible.

But perhaps there's a reason for the slightly slower start that is mentioned earlier in the thread that I haven't caught up with yet.

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To help encourage pirates, I'm also thinking of some bonus goals/other mentions I can hand out. biggest single haul, shortest lifespan , most G, biggest bribe, biggest buried treasure(dead pirates only). Other ideas welcome Many of these will need reporting, since I'm not about to go scouring through every game file looking for them. (and "1st HW raid" is not going to be awarded )

And since we're talking about pirates here: Most heavy handed and most subtle? IE the pirate who is most succesful in battle and the pirate who most succesfully avoids even being seen or whatever. But... hmm... you'd need to quantify those factors. Still, thematically I think they'd be nice ideas

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wumpus wrote on Thu, 20 April 2006 06:59

Ahh, nothing happened yet, cool. I was out of circulation over the ultra-long weekend because some clever cookie came to work on Maundy Thursday with some cold or similar and left me in bed all the nice weekend... GRRR...!

Well bugger! I spent my weekend laughing at the cadets & watching the get lost

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There's no paticular reason to go this slowly; eg you could load the "starting cash" and transfer in the same turn. Technically I can even make all of the pirate's starting equipment be ready and in their hands at whatever locations in 2400, but that's mainly a consideration that might be interesting for "next time", since it's a *lot* of work at the moment. Still, it's possible. But perhaps there's a reason for the slightly slower start that is mentioned earlier in the thread that I haven't caught up with yet.

There are game reasons yes, but I won't get into them publically, suffice it to say, depending on how thing turn out, I may have to delay pirates even more if there's a next time.

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And since we're talking about pirates here: Most heavy handed and most subtle? IE the pirate who is most succesful in battle and the pirate who most succesfully avoids even being seen or whatever. But... hmm... you'd need to quantify those factors. Still, thematically I think they'd be nice ideas

Indeed, nice ideas, but difficult to identify.

20 mins to the deadline, I shall have some file for you soon

PS Update: 7 pirates now! w00t!

[Updated on: Wed, 19 April 2006 19:44]

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Wumpus has the ball!

Marduk wrote on Thu, 20 April 2006 15:45

I have a question, what about worlds on the border? With an X or Y value of 1100 or 2100 - are they off-limits or free for the taking?

There are TWO such worlds. I haven't checked their Hab against the Empire races, but they're free for the taking. From first message: "Signpost" planets will be named, said planets are NOT in the frontier. - To make things simple I'll use the 1100 & 2100 boundaries and leave off signpost planets for the other two sides. The four 1100 & 2100 "lines"(excluding the 100ly ends of course) are part of the interior.

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I was curious how many worlds we'd have available - normally 512 for a medium dense. The 100 ly frontier is just over 30% of the universe area, but typically has 20% of the worlds. Probably some part of the universe creation algorithm makes it less dense on the edge. Given five empires, that's 80 worlds per player, which encourages us to spread out a lot. Which is good for the pirates, certainly.

There are 259 worlds in the interior, and 360 in total.

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Marduk wrote on Thu, 20 April 2006 06:45

I was curious how many worlds we'd have available - normally 512 for a medium dense.

512 planets ... it is a Large/Normal.
Medium/Dense is 360 planets. Medium/Normal is 288 planets.

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Update: 8 pirates! w00t!
Welcome to bretter and sb & Thanx to Sergey for spamming the old hands...I haven't seen some of those email addresses in years!

I have nailed down the formula I will be using for Pirate tech levels.(subject to change in-game if it becomes needful naturally)

Starting Pirate Techs are: 2-1-2-1-2-4 (in the usual order)

I'll also detail the (in)game rules in two messages(one for pirates one for Empires) of the game forum when we start to keep things clear.(and get them out of this looong thread)

More pirates wanted!

[Updated on: Thu, 20 April 2006 05:34]

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gible wrote on Thu, 20 April 2006 05:32

Starting Pirate Techs are: 2-1-2-1-2-4 (in the usual order)

Well my impression of "pirate" just got downgraded to "pimple faced teenager in a canoe with a rusty BB gun and a butter knife"


Sure hope those techs ramp up fast.

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