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What percentage of minerals does space battle salvage leave?

Tue, 27 September 2005 03:02

dreadlordnaf

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If a ship gets blown up in combat does it leave 45% of its minerals like scrapping would? Or is the rate lower.

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Re: What percentage of minerals does space battle salvage leave?

Tue, 27 September 2005 04:37

iztok

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Hi!

dreadlordnaf wrote on Tue, 27 September 2005 09:02

If a ship gets blown up in combat does it leave 45% of its minerals like scrapping would? Or is the rate lower.

It usually leaves 1/3. But with very low-cost ships sometimes it leaves more than the building costs of those ships were.
BR, Iztok

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Re: What percentage of minerals does space battle salvage leave?

Tue, 27 September 2005 05:34

gible

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iztok wrote on Tue, 27 September 2005 20:37

It usually leaves 1/3. But with very low-cost ships sometimes it leaves more than the building costs of those ships were.

That would be due to miniturization affecting the build costs but not the wreckage yes?

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Re: What percentage of minerals does space battle salvage leave?

Tue, 27 September 2005 05:46

Kotk

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gible wrote on Tue, 27 September 2005 12:34

That would be due to miniturization affecting the build costs but not the wreckage yes?

Nope. If your ship costs 2 or less of every mineral then 1/3 of it is less than 1. So salvage left would be empty. It feels like stars is then putting random between 0 and 9 of each mineral there instead.

[Updated on: Tue, 27 September 2005 05:47]

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Re: What percentage of minerals does space battle salvage leave?

Tue, 27 September 2005 05:53

gible

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hmm can anyone say alliance mineral tap?
(not quite as much as a fountain)

[Updated on: Tue, 27 September 2005 05:53]

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Re: What percentage of minerals does space battle salvage leave?

Tue, 27 September 2005 06:10

Micha

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Registered: November 2002
Location: Belgium GMT +1

gible wrote on Tue, 27 September 2005 11:53

hmm can anyone say alliance mineral tap?
(not quite as much as a fountain)

Heh, has been mentioned before: fleet slots. Wink

mch

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Re: What percentage of minerals does space battle salvage leave?

Tue, 27 September 2005 06:26

gible

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Location: Wellington, New Zealand

sod using extra slots...just using your normal basic chaff and sending them out against a handy chaff shredder fleet.

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Re: What percentage of minerals does space battle salvage leave?

Tue, 27 September 2005 07:34

m.a@stars

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gible wrote on Tue, 27 September 2005 12:26

just using your normal basic chaff and sending them out against a handy chaff shredder fleet.

Indeed, I've seen that happen in one of my current games: ambush with a few beamers a few thousand enemy chaff which were traveling w/out escort, get more than expected battle debris, hardly enough to be significant, but intriguing. Sherlock

So many Stars, so few Missiles!

In space no one can hear you scheme! Deal

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Re: What percentage of minerals does space battle salvage leave?

Tue, 27 September 2005 07:40

Kotk

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There is one salvage per battle. One per fleet will be if victims hit mine or are scrapped. It is neverthless quite boring MM to take that ~2700kT minerals out from these 200 salvages.

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Re: What percentage of minerals does space battle salvage leave?

Tue, 27 September 2005 08:43

Ptolemy

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Registered: September 2003
Location: Finland

Yes - agreed,
I wouldn't be inclined to grant a game change of pace as a host when the player starts complaining that his turns are taking too long. Twisted Evil

Ptolemy

Though we often ask how and why, we must also do to get the answers to the questions.

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Re: What percentage of minerals does space battle salvage leave?

Tue, 27 September 2005 12:16

PricklyPea

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Registered: February 2005

would scrapping large amounts of chaff for minerals be considered cheating?

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Re: What percentage of minerals does space battle salvage leave?

Tue, 27 September 2005 13:13

Kotk

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PricklyPea wrote on Tue, 27 September 2005 19:16

would scrapping large amounts of chaff for minerals be considered cheating?

Sure ... its clearly unfair way to get minerals. Its up to playmates anyway. One time profit is low but the stacks of salvages are immediately discovered and it is hard to describe as not intentional. I think if someone objects against it then the scrapper has to stop. As punishment he gets Trash

imago on diplomacy board. Very Happy

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Re: What percentage of minerals does space battle salvage leave?

Tue, 27 September 2005 13:38

Kotk

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Btw genning amounts over 512 salvages or packets is the way to crash host. Other deep space objects are similarily limited like fleets but game engine code misses checks there.

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Re: What percentage of minerals does space battle salvage leave?

Tue, 27 September 2005 16:15

vonKreedon

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Location: Seattle, WA USA

This discussion so far assumes salvage in deep space, but what about battles over planets?

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