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is there a battle simulator anywhere? Wed, 06 July 2005 08:43 Go to next message
dreadlordnaf is currently offline dreadlordnaf

 
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I thought i heard talk long ago of some sort of stars utility that was a battle simulator. Something that would let you input the stats of ships then see how the battle would most likely be resolved. Anyone know of this or where you can download it?

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Re: is there a battle simulator anywhere? Wed, 06 July 2005 08:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think what you're looking for may be here...;

http://www.starsfaq.com/download/battlesim.zip

Cool



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Re: is there a battle simulator anywhere? Wed, 06 July 2005 09:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Referring to this post perhaphs?

Updated link to file: http://starsautohost.org/files/eval.zip (since AH moved)

mch


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Re: is there a battle simulator anywhere? Wed, 06 July 2005 13:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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IIRC that "battle simulator" consisted of just some pre-made Stars game files. Moreover, IIRC it starts with all techs at 26, which could affect the targetting (less Boranium cost of some ships, etc.). It seems to me that you'd be best to build your own test bed, with races as closely approximating the actual ones as you can, and using Alchemy to block queues so that you can get the tech levels right. Of course, the battle sim is probably your best bet if your battle will involve MT components.

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Re: is there a battle simulator anywhere? Wed, 06 July 2005 16:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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crr65536 wrote on Wed, 06 July 2005 19:51

IIRC that "battle simulator" consisted of just some pre-made Stars game files. Moreover, IIRC it starts with all techs at 26, which could affect the targetting (less Boranium cost of some ships, etc.). It seems to me that you'd be best to build your own test bed, with races as closely approximating the actual ones as you can, and using Alchemy to block queues so that you can get the tech levels right. Of course, the battle sim is probably your best bet if your battle will involve MT components.


There _is_ a utility that does what dreadlordnaf describes: input the stats of the ships. See the link in my post. However it has it's limits.

I used to test battles with the battlesim.zip but attractiveness is indeed not always right, not to mention battle board positions ... It's indeed best if you build your own testbed, fitting the game exactly with player numbers and techs as close as possible. That's what I now usually do (except for quick non complex battles).

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Re: is there a battle simulator anywhere? Sun, 10 July 2005 07:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You could try this

http://starsbattlesim.steveanddebs.org/index.html

But please take notice of the disclaimers - it's very rough and needs a lot more testing.

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Re: is there a battle simulator anywhere? Sun, 10 July 2005 07:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hmmm,

An interesting start...
However, there is no accounting for dampeners Smile
And, yeah I know... its rough at this time but what if you add an extra slot and then need to delete it?

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Re: is there a battle simulator anywhere? Sun, 10 July 2005 08:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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donjon wrote on Sun, 10 July 2005 12:46

Hmmm,

An interesting start...
However, there is no accounting for dampeners Smile
And, yeah I know... its rough at this time but what if you add an extra slot and then need to delete it?


Setting the "count" to 0 should do the trick. I'll add a "delete slot" button though.

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Re: is there a battle simulator anywhere? Tue, 12 July 2005 16:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Staz wrote on Sun, 10 July 2005 13:52

Setting the "count" to 0 should do the trick. I'll add a "delete slot" button though.


Version 0.22 is up on the site now; this has a "delete slot" button and (primitive) support for energy dampeners.

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Re: is there a battle simulator anywhere? Wed, 13 July 2005 04:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Staz wrote on Tue, 12 July 2005 22:36

Version 0.22 is up on the site now; this has a "delete slot" button and (primitive) support for energy dampeners.

I've checked your tool. Very nice work, but check the following output line:
> Round 2 : Alien Beam Nubian [15@5%,4500] shields regenerate from 0 to 4500 dp
It seems program regens shields even after they are dropped.

I also had a minor problem with saving after download. It was saved as a .ZIP, not .JAR.
BR, Iztok


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Re: is there a battle simulator anywhere? Wed, 13 July 2005 16:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iztok wrote on Wed, 13 July 2005 09:57

I've checked your tool. Very nice work, but check the following output line:
> Round 2 : Alien Beam Nubian (15 at 5%,4500) shields regenerate from 0 to 4500 dp
It seems program regens shields even after they are dropped.

I also had a minor problem with saving after download. It was saved as a .ZIP, not .JAR.
BR, Iztok


The regen of dropped shields has been fixed - version 0.23 is available for download.

The download problem is down to your browser/windows settings I think. I'll have a think about the best way to try and make the download independent of browser settings.

Please keep the comments coming in.

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Re: is there a battle simulator anywhere? Wed, 13 July 2005 17:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Out of curiosity (and it's your program so obviously it's entirely your choice if you want to do this) how much trouble would it be to make it into an applet so you could run it in your browser?

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crr65536 wrote on Wed, 13 July 2005 22:12

Out of curiosity (and it's your program so obviously it's entirely your choice if you want to do this) how much trouble would it be to make it into an applet so you could run it in your browser?



It would be very simple, but applets run in a very restricted "sandbox" and can't access local files so you wouldn't be able to save/load battles.

There are ways around this, but it's not that simple and would require the user's explicit permission every time which would be a bit annoying.

I have also looked at using Java Web Start for launching this, but Yahoo! Geocities (which is where the site is hosted) doesn't support the right MIME type mappings.

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Re: is there a battle simulator anywhere? Fri, 22 July 2005 18:06 Go to previous message
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Version 0.24 is now available on the site which allows you to specify the initial damage level for each token.

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