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Lazy Q number 2 (split from Lazy Q number 1) Tue, 14 June 2005 07:41 Go to next message
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OK, then. Another lazy Q Razz

Can you launch a mineral packet in the same year that you build a SB (assuming that you are PP - if this makes a difference)?

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Re: Does a SB prevent CA deterraform? (split from "Re: can u invade a planet with enemy fleets Tue, 14 June 2005 07:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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PricklyPea wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 13:41

OK, then. Another lazy Q Razz

Can you launch a mineral packet in the same year that you build a SB (assuming that you are PP - if this makes a difference)?


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Re: Lazy Q number 2 Tue, 14 June 2005 08:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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PricklyPea wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 13:41

OK, then. Another lazy Q Razz

Can you launch a mineral packet in the same year that you build a SB (assuming that you are PP - if this makes a difference)?


One more split today and you're buying me a drink! Razz

In case it's a serious question as well: you don't have the option to put a packet in the queue if you don't have a massdriver in orbit ... and if you don't have a base I doubt you have that. Wink

Hm ... massdrivers components on ships?? Close in to a few ly and nuke'm!! Twisted Evil How about that for making the PP PRT interesting again? Nod
Mechanical component? Galleons carrying the ammo. Smile

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Re: Lazy Q number 2 Tue, 14 June 2005 10:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hmm, that would be interesting. Although I do remember seeing "Mineral packet" in the production queue even when there is no driver - or maybe I was hallucinating?

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Re: Lazy Q number 2 Tue, 14 June 2005 13:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hallucination... Wink

Although... if a planet has a starbase with a mass driver on board, and it gets destroyed... do the mineral packets still stay in the production queue? Shocked

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Re: Lazy Q number 2 Tue, 14 June 2005 15:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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PricklyPea wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 16:02

Hmm, that would be interesting. Although I do remember seeing "Mineral packet" in the production queue even when there is no driver - or maybe I was hallucinating?


well, i'll be darned... Shocked

hmm, there are "auto build" mineral packet options on my base with no massdriver Rolling Eyes but for some reason, the order is skipped when i try it Grin in fact.. its not letting me "set destination"

but you aren't totally hallucinating!!!

but since #17 production (stars! order of events) = Production (incl. research, packet launch, fleet/starbase construction)
packets are actually launched before the starbase construction,

i think Nod


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Re: Lazy Q number 2 Tue, 14 June 2005 19:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ashlyn wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 22:49

but since #17 production (stars! order of events) = Production (incl. research, packet launch, fleet/starbase construction)
packets are actually launched before the starbase construction,

i think Nod

I am sure that packets are launched in production queue order. If you for example build packet/base/packet/base/packet all in same turn and if all the bases got different drivers you end up with different decay rate packets. Nod

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Re: Lazy Q number 2 Wed, 15 June 2005 06:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>in fact.. its not letting me "set destination"

I wonder what happens when you build packest (with driver) but don't set destination and whether you are getting it skipped because there is no destination.

If a destination was set, i wonder if the packet would be built?

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Re: Lazy Q number 2 Wed, 15 June 2005 09:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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it won't build the packet; you'd just get an error message...

kinda like the "can't colonize without colonists" one.

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Re: Lazy Q number 2 Wed, 15 June 2005 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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PricklyPea wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 12:04

>in fact.. its not letting me "set destination"

I wonder what happens when you build packest (with driver) but don't set destination and whether you are getting it skipped because there is no destination.

If a destination was set, i wonder if the packet would be built?



it won't build the packet; you'd just get an error message...
kinda like the "can't colonize without colonists" one.

hmmm I think I misunderstood your question - i took it as - if you had a mass driver and if you set packets but no destination - what would happen? I think Stars! sends you a message close to "Hey Idiot, we tried to make packets but we didn't have a destination - order cancelled" or something like that Wink

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Re: Lazy Q number 2 Wed, 15 June 2005 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Laughing

If we weren't all so lazy we might have had the real answer long time ago. Only takes few minutes in battlesim...

Yes, possible to send mineral packet same turn as mass driver built, with limitations.

You need to:
a) have mass driver before
b) set destination
c) lose mass driver
d) rebuild mass driver in a later turn and have packet (auto built) after

The warp speed of the packet will be slowed down or speed up to rated speed of new mass driver. 2 speed 10 mass drivers will slow former faster speed target to 10 (not 11), only possible to launch one combined packet as no decay difference between single and double mass drivers.

There is a potential for a nasty trick here, easiest for PP, where you build a small mass driver for a turn when no one is looking, set your target, get rid of it next turn, and have suprise afterwards even if close neighbour is orbital checking you out.

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Re: Lazy Q number 2 Wed, 15 June 2005 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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multilis wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 14:50

Laughing
If we weren't all so lazy we might have had the real answer long time ago. Only takes few minutes in battlesim...



Thanks for checking this out. I guess you don't even need the prior mass driver if you were willing to hand craft your .x file to set the destination of the packet. I wonder if also possible to set warp speed this way... maybe Wumpus knows.

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Re: Lazy Q number 2 Wed, 15 June 2005 16:42 Go to previous message
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you were willing to hand craft your .x file to set the destination

I assume most would consider such cheating. But regular with known limitations might be acceptable like other method used to send multiple packets same turn from same driver.

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