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Sirak wrote on Tue, 24 May 2005 10:42

Greetings! So if nobody cares about the planet for lets say 10 years and after this time a colonize it again, will there be the same amount of surface minerals/buildings as before?

No decay on a planet. Their building materials are better than ours, and Ironium doesn't rust.

-Matt

[Updated on: Tue, 24 May 2005 12:08]

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No decay, no rot, no corruption. Surface minerals are piles of minerals - piles of rock don't decay after a decade so a pile of germanium doesn't either. And, mlaub is correct - Ironium doesn't rust

Ptolemy

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[Updated on: Tue, 24 May 2005 23:13]

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Micha wrote on Tue, 24 May 2005 16:30

I'm sorry but that's incorrect. Buildings always stay, the only way to get rid of them is by destroying them with bombs. Note that bombers in orbit of an unhabited world do not bomb. The only buildings that disappear when a planet becomes empty are the defenses, mch

As a funny aside...this wasn't always the case. I started playing Stars! when you had the option to raze factories, mines, and defences in the Q. I chose this option more than once by accident. Luckily, only in games against the AI's.

-Matt

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mlaub wrote on Wed, 25 May 2005 05:39

As a funny aside...this wasn't always the case. I started playing Stars! when you had the option to raze factories, mines, and defences in the Q. I chose this option more than once by accident. Luckily, only in games against the AI's. -Matt

That feature once existed? When about to lose a planet I often thought it would be nice to let the last man leaving hit the self destruct button and leave the enemy a scorched planet.
Similar to the upload of minerals to the enemies fleet to make them disappear, although that is a bug and cheat (IMHO).

This would change a lot to gameplay, and not all for the best ... HP races would get it a lot harder ... OTOH CA loses part of his power to reduce defenses with their OAs and take planets with factories/mines intact with bio bombs ... Hm I assume bio bombs wouldn't be used anymore, just LBUs to nuke the enemies defenses ASAP with no regard of trying to save anything else ... since that would be gone anyway ... and finish it off with cherries (or maybe some bio bombs afterall)

Hm, did the raze cost you any resources? Did it cost like 1 resources for every installation you wanted destroyed? Or was it instant for all factories? If it wasn't free than you would not always be able to destroy everything ...

You could make this a LRT, for races that intend to lose. Or maybe PRT based, like CAs couldn't do this.

mch

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vonKreedon wrote on Wed, 25 May 2005 10:17

Yeah it cost resources to raze your installations. From a simulated reality standpoint I liked the ability to play a scorched earth defense, but it was probably not great from a gameplay standpoint. Man that was a long time ago.

Scorched earth would be useful sometimes, esp. against SS if you become an enslaved planet of miners

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PricklyPear wrote on Wed, 25 May 2005 19:00

Scorched earth would be useful sometimes, esp. against SS if you become an enslaved planet of miners

You can put every kT of mined mineral into orbital on such *extremely rare* occasion.

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Micha wrote on Wed, 25 May 2005 02:14

Hm, did the raze cost you any resources? Did it cost like 1 resources for every installation you wanted destroyed? everything ...

Yes. Exactly 1 resource for each Fact, Mine, or defence installation. So even an HP could wipe most everything in a year.

Hmmm...v2.0...Mass Discriminators, Wide Beam Mine Lasers ( range 4!), or the Magno Pulse Mark III !!! Yea baby!, Range 4, 380 power, Hits all ships in a 3 square radius!

No Missiles, tho. Mining fuel sucked too. BB were fairly worthless. No CA! serious plus...

-Matt

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