Hmm....

A friend of mine is having a slight problem in loosing his load upon the enemy population on a certain planet.

He has bombers in orbit (and has had for the past two turns), there is no starbase/orbital fort... The owner of the planet is set to "Enemy", and the bomber fleet is on chicken orders... although that shouldn't really have a bearing on things.

I've checked his turn, and all the other bombers that he has on other planets are doing their bit for the cause...

He's confused. I'm confused.

Has anybody else come across any bombing bugs like this? Or is there some devious reasons why this would be the case?

Hope someone can help. He is becoming quite irate at the lack of devastation.

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That was my first thought... That maybe there was something up with the battle orders...

The chap in question, however, has 4 fleets of bombers, all of which are operating under Chicken orders. 3 of them are quite happily bombing, but the other is just sitting there taking pictures of the scenery...

The only difference is that the fleet in question is not accompanied by a war fleet comprising of armed ships. But there shouldn't be any kind of "bleed" from one fleet to another..

I'm confused!

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Three questions:

One: What 'EXACTLY' are the battle orders set at? (primary, secondary, action and attack who)

Two: Are these bombers attacking the same player the other bombers are attacking?

Three: Do the bombers actually have bombs? (or do they have cameras?)

Ptolemy

[Updated on: Mon, 21 February 2005 02:50]

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One: None/Disengage
None/Disengage
Disengage
Nobody

Two: No - All bomber fleets are attacking different enemies!

Three: Oooops!

As I said - 4 fleets of bombers - 3 are dropping bombs, 1 is not. All on chicken orders, and all target races set to "enemy"...

If this isn't a bug one way, then it must be one t'other...

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Aha! so it IS a bug!

Considering that, when you have a number of different fleets at the same location on different battle orders, they still manage to engage the right people, or disengage after x moves... I'm guessing that only the "Attack Who" field is carried over...


Ah well. Time to redo those basic Chicken orders... again..

I'll do some test-bedding and post the results here if they're particularly surprising or exciting!

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[Updated on: Mon, 21 February 2005 11:22]

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Storm wrote on Mon, 21 February 2005 10:49

Aha! so it IS a bug! Considering that, when you have a number of different fleets at the same location on different battle orders, they still manage to engage the right people, or disengage after x moves... I'm guessing that only the "Attack Who" field is carried over...

When you have one armed fleet with orders to attack nobody and a second fleet to attack a certain race (that has no orders to attack you) both your fleets will join the battle. The orders of the second fleet will trigger the battle and the first fleet will just help. I assume this is the same routine as for why the bombers bomb although they have orders to attack nobody.

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Ah well. Time to redo those basic Chicken orders... again..

My bomber orders:
None/Disengage
None/Disengage
Disengage
Enemy

They're called "Sweep/bomb chicken" (not that the name matters) since I also use them for sweepers that are not supposed to fight in a battle but retreat and flee.

mch

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Thanks for helping out there!

I still say it's a bug, but at least I understand the intricacies of having different orders for multiple fleets at the same location.

Now I can go tell my friend, so that he may resume killing thousands of innocent civilians..

ain't war fun?

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Ain't no such thing as innocent enemy civilians.
They all become invasion troops and should be eliminated.

i.e. do unto others before they do unto you!

Ptolemy
Emperor of a Thousand Suns

[Updated on: Tue, 22 February 2005 05:17]

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There should be a random modifier for the type of troops dropped on enemy planets...

I mean, you suck up all these people from one planet, happily operating factories, playing in the streets, planting flowerbeds, and looking after old ladies, then skip away to a nearby enemy planet, and they've mysteriously trained up to stormtrooper status...

Just once, I'd like to drop 100,000 hairdressers onto the planet surface, and watch them perm the enemy to death...

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Just as an addendum to this subject...
I know the Battle Orders "bleed" thingy has been done to death in other threads....

...but re Bombers not bombing when set to Chicken orders....

It appears that the bombers *will* bomb if there are enemy ships present, regardless of whether or not an actual battle takes place.

Can anyone confirm this?
It certainly seems to be the case....

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