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icon9.gif  Predicting Homeworld Locations Sun, 07 November 2004 06:38 Go to next message
Robert is currently offline Robert

 
Lt. Junior Grade

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Registered: November 2002
Location: Dortmund, Germany
Hi everybody...

Just wanted to publish some tests on prediction homeworld locations...

What I did:
I generated about 20 universes all medium packed and copied the x/y coordinates to excel.
I was wondering if it is possible to predict the location of homeworlds if you know one or a few...
I found that it is _not_ possible.
Some universes had a few homeworlds in the same locations (say 4 of 16 within 10ly from each other), but some other homeworlds more than 150 ly away from prediction.
So, even if you see 4 homeworlds, and you got an example universe with identical locations of 4 other homeworlds, you cant know where the others are...

Something I found was that in no case a homeworld was closer than 60ly from the edge (in medium packed), and that minimum distance between homeworlds was 245ly, while the average was 270ly and the max distance to the closes hw was about 320ly.

Not that great news, but maybe someone is interested...

So in the future when someone tells yuo about "triangulation" and "prediction" and that he knows where the other's homeworlds must be - be careful. he might be totally wrong (IMHO)

In fact my tests show that even if you know 10 of 16 homeworlds you might still be mistaken by more than 50ly! (in a 1200x1200 universe)...

I put so much time in it, and no result... very frustrating...

If someone is interested in the test-data, send me a private note and i will send you the excel-sheet...

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Robert




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Re: Predicting Homeworld Locations Sun, 07 November 2004 11:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LEit is currently offline LEit

 
Lt. Commander

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Registered: April 2003
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While this is good news, it's not too unexpected, the Jeffs were obviously very good at what they did, and it is a bad thing if your enemy is able to predict the location of your home world.


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Re: Predicting Homeworld Locations Wed, 23 February 2005 18:23 Go to previous message
Shadow Whist is currently offline Shadow Whist

 
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Registered: August 2003
Location: Vancouver, WA
In a similar vein, has anyone determined if player order is a contributing factor in HW location. For instance, would player 1 be next to player 2 who would be next to player 2 and player 3?
Or are the starting locations seemingly random?

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